176. Notes on Telephone Conversation between Rusk and Bundy, April 111

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The Sec said he was getting ready to call the President and Bundy said he hoped he would. The Sec. said if the Soviets would accept our piece of paper on non-transfer as a basis for negotiation it looked as though the French would play. This would seriously change the situation and the Sec. said he thought he might try this on Dobrynin tomorrow. Bundy asked the Sec. if he had seen the outgoing and the Sec. said he had. Bundy said the answer must be cleared at the Presidential level.

The Sec. asked how things were back here and Bundy said they looked pretty good, the general effect was healthy. The Sec. said the French were laying themselves out. They discussed what had appeared in the press. Bundy said he had discussed with Tyler the Berlin thing. The Sec said he had just talked to Ball on this. Sec. said he hated to see us turn back on something, adding he wanted to see the state of the commitment. Bundy said Gilpatric thinks it is clear. The Sec. said it was cleared with him and Bundy said it was cleared with Anderson. Bundy said we ought to have a look at it next week.

  1. Test ban negotiations: Soviet and French concerns. No classification marking. 1 p. Department of State, Rusk Files: Lot 72 D 192, Telephone Conversations.