Mr. Hay to Mr. Choate.

No. 315.]

Sir: I have to acknowledge the receipt of your dispatch No. 251, of the 10th instant, and for your information to transmit herewith copies of the following letters: From G. F. Lough & Co., dated February 14, 1900; Pennsylvania Milling Company, dated February 16, 1900; Arkell & Douglass, dated January 30, 1900, and February 14, 1900; W. H. Crossman & Bro., dated January 30, 1900; C. C. Abel & Co., dated January 27, 1900, and February 14, 1900; Norton & Son, dated February 13, 1900.

With reference to the suggestion contained in the last paragraph of your dispatch, it is the view of the Department that, in order to support a claim for indemnity against the British Government for the seizure of the goods, it must appear both that the claimant was an American citizen and that he was the owner of the goods when seized, within the rule of the prize jurisdiction, that the consignee on whose account and at whose risk the goods were shipped is considered such owner during the voyage. The rule would seem to suggest as a corollary that the right to claim for damages caused by the illegal seizure would be in the owner.

On the interesting question whether there may be a basis for a claim for “indirect loss sustained by the American shippers growing out of a sale on credit to citizens of the Transvaal,” the further question might arise whether the consignor might, notwithstanding the seizure, be able to recover at law the full contract price from the consignee; and, if so, whether the seizure could be considered legally as a wrong against the consignor, and, on the other hand, if unable to recover at law, whether, under all the circumstances of the case, such inability would be legally imputable to the act of the British Government in making the seizure. In view of the possible considerations of fact and [Page 597] law involved in the question, the expression of any opinion thereon is reserved until a claim shall be presented on a case stated by the shippers to the Department.

You will observe from the inclosed correspondence that C. C. Abel & Co. have withdrawn their claim, for the reason that the consignees are pressing their claim through their own Government; that W. H. Crossman & Bro. have likewise cast the burden of settlement upon their consignees, British subjects; that Norton & Son, shipping agents for some of the shippers, are of opinion that most of the flour was sold at the time of shipment, and that the shippers have received pay for the same.

From the recent correspondence of the shippers, the Department is hopeful that other claims may proceed to an acceptable solution. Nevertheless, the Department would be pleased with the continuation of your efforts until a final solution satisfactory to the American shippers is reached in all of the cases.

The Department has forwarded to the Pennsylvania Milling Company that part of your dispatch relating to their claim, with the request for further evidence to strengthen your hand. Their letter (copy inclosed) names prices for the sale of the flour. The Department has instructed the consul-general at Cape Town to cooperate as requested.

I am, etc.,

John Hay.
[Inclosure 1.]

G. F. Lough & Co. to Mr. Hay.

Dear Sir: We are in receipt of your favors of the 10th and 13th instant, dealing with the cargoes per steamships Beatrice and Mashona, which we have read with attention.

We thank you for your offer to instruct the United-States consul-general at Cape Town, to act in our behalf in the sale of any of our goods which may have been seized, but in view of the points laid down in your letter of the 3d instant, “That in order to maintain a claim for indemnity it should appear both that the owners of the goods were American citizens and that they were such owners at the time of the seizure,” we do not see that we can at present ask you to act. The shipment in which we are interested per steamship Mashona was made by us, American citizens, in fulfillment of an order received from a British subject. Owing to the detention of the Mashona the goods deteriorated and our customer declined to accept our draft. These are the facts, as received by cable, but at an early date we expect letters giving fuller details. The bills of lading drawn “to order” were attached to the draft and would not be given up without acceptance. These documents should be sufficient proof of ownership. We have instructed our agent in South Africa, who is the holder of our power of attorney, to act in this matter.

Thanking you for the interest you have taken in our case, we are, etc.,

G. F. Lough & Co.
[Inclosure 2.]

Pennsylvania Milling and Export Company to Mr. Hay.

Sir: Your favor of the 12th instant duly received. We delayed replying to same until we got some more definite information concerning value of flour at Delagoa Bay about the period at which our flour would have arrived there had it not been seized.

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From what we can learn, flour was bringing in the neighborhood of £1 per bag on dock at that time. This, of course, not inclusive of either the Portuguese regular duty or the ordinary transit duty, which is charged there for flour going to the interior. However, as our flour has been sold at prices ranging from 10 shillings to 11 shillings ber bag, having been sold much earlier in the season than the time of shipment, we would be satisfied to have the flour taken off our hands by the British authorities at the different points where the flour has been landed, provided they pay us, say, 15 shillings per bag, free of all charges for storage, landing, and any other expenses that may have accrued through the action of the British authorities in the matter.

We hereby authorize you to instruct the consul-general at Cape Town to act in our behalf in the sale of all the seized flour on the different vessels at price of 15 shillings sterling per bag net to us—that is, no expenses for storage or other charges to be deducted from same. The freight on the flour was prepaid at this end, as was also the insurance.

For your guidance we will recapitulate lots of flour that were seized.

On the steamship Mashona 3,254 bags marked “ M Delagoa Bay,” and branded “Johannesburg.” This lot, we understand, is at Cape Town.

On the steamship Beatrice 4,349 bags marked “ M Delagoa Bay,” and branded “Johannesburg;” also 1,340 bags marked “ S” and branded “Goldfields.” This lot, we understand, is at East London.

On the Maria there were 2,000 bags marked “O. & Co. Delagoa Bay,” and branded “Speria;” also 1,512 bags marked “ S Delagoa Bay,” and branded “Gold-fields.” These lots, we understand, are at Durban.

Each bag of flour weighs 100 pounds, and the quality of all is alike, being the very best grade of spring wheat patent manufactured in this country.

If you require any invoice or anything of that kind to be made out we shall be pleased to furnish you with all the necessary detail.

We thank you for your interest in the matter, and remain, etc.

Pennsylvania Milling and Export Company,
Per A.J. Toomey, President.
[Inclosure 3.]

Arkell & Douglas to Mr. Hay.

Dear Sir: We have pleasure in acknowledging your further letters of January 25 and January 26, and we observe what you say in reference to the South African status, and the issues you raise are those we have had in our mind, as you will have noted by our letters to you, and that there are considerable complications for us to settle before we could make any specified and definite claim.

We have received word from our house in South Africa that a few of the shipments have been taken up by the parties who originally ordered the goods, so that those cases are removed. There are, however, a very considerable number of the shipments which we do not look for any settlement on, and we think we should be able to claim as absolutely our property, but we have not been able as yet to reach definite conclusions.

Your telegram also received, with thanks, and as you may have observed from our bills of lading sent you, we have a shipment of flour on this steamer. This shipment, we consider, is absolutely our property, and we anticipate receiving advices to that effect daily. We shall, acting on your telegram, as soon as we have information, cable our house at Cape Town to put a claim in, and, if necessary, to consult the American consul there.

We presume you will kindly keep us posted with such further details as you may receive, and we remain,

Faithfully yours,

Arkell & Douglas.
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[Inclosure 4.]

Messrs. Arkell & Douglas to Mr. Hay.

Dear Sir: We beg to acknowledge your favors of February 10 and 13, and we thank you very much for the information which you have given us. We observe what you say in reference to cargo having been found at bottom of the steamer Beatrice probably belonging to the Transvaal government. We would state that we doubt very much the accuracy of any such information. Of course the flour may have been marked for some firm in the Transvaal who had been in the habit of importing, but this does not follow it was not for legitimate business.

Regarding the steamer Mashona, we cabled our house at Cape Town to put in a claim for the damage we had sustained by reason of flour shipped by this vessel not having gone to Delagoa Bay, and to consult with the United States consul as might be necessary.

In reference, however, to the sale of any of our goods, while thanking you for the offer, having our own houses at both Cape Town and Port Elizabeth, we naturally can look after any such issue without troubling the consul; but advised our people to see the consul at either place in case it would be necessary to secure the discharge of the goods.

We are, etc.,

Arkell & Douglas.
[Inclosure 5.]

W. H. Crossman & Bros, to Mr. Hay.

Sir: We beg to thank you for your favor of 26th instant, also telegram of 29th instant, and to express our high sense of obligation and thanks for the valuable particulars and advice given us therein in respect to the Maria, Mashona, and Beatrice cargoes.

As indicated per our previous advices the conditions under which all our shipments were made (none of which seem to us to be susceptible of being considered contraband), makes the question of the seizures purely a matter as between Great Britain and the property of her subjects, our obligations in respect thereto having ceased at the moment they were put on board the respective ships here in accordance with orders to us from the importers at the other end.

Notwithstanding this position, we are, of course, keenly interested in anything that transpires in respect to this matter, which may be 01 service to us later on or instructive in the meantime, and we shall highly appreciate further advices from you in the premises should it please you to favor us with same.

With respect, etc.,

W. H. Crossman & Bros.
Jas. W. Smith.
[Inclosure 6.]

C. C. Abel & Co. to Mr. Hay.

Sir: We beg to acknowledge the receipt of your telegram of the 18th instant and of your letter of the 26th same, and we again thank you for your kind efforts in our behalf. As our correspondents, the East African Company, of Rotterdam, have since paid us for the 400 cases petroleum of Beatrice, we have informed them that their protest against the British Government will have to be made through the Dutch state department at the Hague.

Whether a claim on us for nondelivery of goods at Delagoa Bay will be pushed by the East African Company remains to be seen. If it is we may be compelled to address you again on the subject.

We are, etc.,

C. C. Abel & Co.
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[Inclosure 7.]

Mr. C. C. Abel & Co. to Mr. Hay.

Sir: We have again to thank you for your various communications regarding the seizures in South African ports of merchandise shipped from United States ports, and beg to inform you that we have definite information from Rotterdam to the effect that the claim relating to the 400 cases petroleum per steamship Beatrice is being pushed by the Dutch state department, as the property has been paid for by the Dutch company, and we consequently withdraw our claim in the matter.

We are, etc.,

C. C. Abel & Co.
[Inclosure 8.]

Norton & Son to Mr. Hay.

Sir: We beg to acknowledge the receipt of your valued favor of the 10th instant, and thank you very much for the information contained therein, which is about as we expected—that very little, if any, of the flour shipped from the United States to South African ports was owned by bona fide American citizens. We think most of the flour was sold at the time of shipment, and the shippers here received pay for same.

Yours, very respectfully,

Norton & Son.