67. Transcript of Telephone Conversation Among the Presidentʼs Assistant (Haldeman), the Presidentʼs Assistant for National Security Affairs (Kissinger), and President Nixon 1

K: Mr. President.

H: This is Bob. Iʼm in the Presidentʼs office. I was thinking of a stopping point on the way to Russia.2 I was wondering whether Austria is a possibility and going to Salzburg, not Vienna. Spending two nights as originally planned to do which would destroy the idea of a rest stopover.

K: Well, if he wants to do that. I have no great objection to that.

H: He is just wondering if that isnʼt better than going to Switzerland.

(At this point, the President came on.)

P: Hello.

K: Hello, Mr. President.

P: I donʼt like the feeling of a Spanish base and I didnʼt like the feeling of the Azores. Switzerland poses a problem which you are aware of. Let me say this for Austria. I have always had a very close relationship with Austria. The Ambassador is a good friend of mine and also it is a country which is not allied to us or the Russians and rather than going to Vienna, going to Salzburg which is a lovely town.

K: And the weather will be nice too. Can we land there?

P: We landed there in a Constellation last time. And I donʼt mind doing the Austrian thing. Whatʼs an hourʼs conversation during the day.

K: I share your concern about Switzerland. And if you go there just over night you are going to have a tremendous operation there for one nightʼs rest and if you go for two nights it looks like a vacation so I think Austria …

P: You donʼt mind our exploring it.

K: No.

P: This Ambassador Hans Gruber is a helluva guy. I know him extremely well. I got to know him at the [Hungarian] refugee period.

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K: And they certainly have the facilities there, Mr. President.

P: They do and the people will be friendly—thatʼs another thing. We have no problem there of unfriendly people. They love Americans in Austria.

K: I think if you are willing to see them …

P: Right. I think we should see them, but only have an hourʼs meeting.

K: A courtesy call.

P: Right, a courtesy call. We do need the two nights.

K: I think, Mr. President, that is a good idea.

P: I will have Bob check that out then. And do you want to check it with Gruber?

K: Gruber?

P: Yes.

K: I could do it easily enough or my office could do it quickly. I will get you an answer by tomorrow. I am sure they will be enthusiastic.

P: Fine, you go forward with Gruber.

  1. Source: Library of Congress, Manuscript Division, Kissinger Papers, Box 21, Telephone Conversations, Chronological File. No classification marking.
  2. Reference is to Nixonʼs planned summit meeting in Moscow May 22–30 with Brezhnev. Nixon stopped in Salzburg May 20–22 en route to Moscow.