740.00119 Council/12–1945
United States Delegation Minutes, Fourth Formal Session, Conference of Foreign Ministers, Spiridonovka, Moscow, December 19, 1945, 5:00–6:35 p. m.
Present:47 | Mr. Molotov, Commissar for Foreign Affairs |
Mr. Vyshinski, Vice Commissar for Foreign Affairs | |
Mr. Gusev, Soviet Ambassador to London | |
Mr. Malik, Soviet Ambassador to Tokyo | |
Mr. Tsarapkin, Chief, American Section, NKID | |
Mr. Pavlov, Interpreter | |
Mr. Byrnes, Secretary of State | |
Mr. Harriman, American Ambassador to Moscow | |
Mr. Cohen, Counselor of the Department of State | |
Dr. Conant, President, Harvard University | |
Mr. Matthews, Director, Office of European Affairs | |
Mr. Vincent, Director, Office of Far Eastern Affairs | |
Mr. Bohlen, Assistant to the Secretary | |
Mr. Bevin, Minister for Foreign Affairs | |
Sir A. Cadogan, Under Secretary of State | |
Sir A. Clark Kerr, British Ambassador to Moscow | |
Sir R. Campbell, Ambassador | |
Mr. Sterndale Bennett, Counselor, Far Eastern Department | |
Mr. McAfee, Interpreter |
Subjects: Terms of Reference of the Allied Council for Japan and the Far Eastern Commission
Mr. Molotov opened the meeting at 5:10 p.m. It was decided to begin with consideration of Item 2 (Terms of Reference of Allied Council and Far Eastern Commission).
The British Delegation circulated its comments on the American draft. (Enclosure No. 1.)48
After a recess requested by Mr. Molotov in order to translate the British paper, Mr. Molotov opened the consideration of the Terms of Reference for the Far Eastern Commission paragraph by paragraph.
Mr. Molotov observed that paragraph 1 of the Soviet draft differed from paragraph 1 of the United States draft only in that India was [Page 673] not included in the former.49 In the opinion of the Soviet Delegation, India should not participate in the Far Eastern Commission since it was not a sovereign state. It should not participate on the same footing with sovereign states. India did not have its own Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Soviet Union did not maintain relations with India.
Mr. Bevin replied that India is now a member of the Far Eastern Commission. He could not agree to exclude India from it. If excluded, India would not even have the position accorded to the Philippines.
Mr. Molotov said that the Philippines were to receive their independence. Continuing, Mr. Molotov stated that the United States letter of August 2250 had contained the statement that the Far Eastern Commission would cease to function as soon as one of the four powers, the United States, Great Britain, the Soviet Union and China, gave notice of its intention to terminate the agreement. However, in point of fact the Far Eastern Commission had not ceased to function but had begun and had been organized without the agreement of all the four states. Accordingly, the existence of the Far Eastern Commission at the present time was inconsistent with the United States letter of August 22.
Mr. Byrnes replied that he could not agree to this. At the time the letter was written the Far Eastern Commission had not existed. The letter was an invitation to organize the Commission. The simple facts were that when the Soviet Government had not seen fit to come into the Commission, others had organized it. Since its organization no member had given notice of termination.
However, in any event the United States and, Mr. Byrnes assumed, Great Britain as well, desired to have the Allies join the Commission and continue along in it. Mr. Byrnes hoped that the delegates could agree to the Terms of Reference. He suggested that they proceed to paragraph 2 since they could not agree regarding paragraph 1.
Mr. Molotov stated that he wished to observe that India had not been proposed as a member of the Far Eastern Commission in the [Page 674] original British proposal of August 30.51 The Philippines had been included.
Mr. Bevin stated that as far as he could remember the British Government had proposed a five-power Control Council with an Advisory Commission in which India would be a member.
Mr. Molotov stated that the proposal had not included India in either body.
Mr. Bevin replied that that had not been accepted. The Far Eastern Commission had been organized. India had been included. India was now a member and Mr. Bevin could not be a party to its exclusion. However, he was prepared to limit India’s participation in the Far Eastern Commission.
Mr. Molotov suggested that as no agreement had been reached on this issue it might be wise to turn to the question with regard to Paragraph II, Section A, Subparagraph 1, as raised by the British paper.
Mr. Bevin desired clarification concerning questions which might arise among the participating powers themselves: for example, reparations questions.
Mr. Byrnes referred to Paragraph II, Section A, Subparagraph 3 of the American proposal. He wished to propose an addition following the words “participating governments” there. The addition would read “in accordance with the voting procedure as in Paragraph V, Subparagraph 2”. In this fashion it would be clear that other matters could be assigned to the Far Eastern Commission by the participating powers in accordance with the regular voting procedure.
Mr. Bevin stated that Subparagraph 1 was specific. Subparagraph 3 covered all the other general matters which he had had in view. He had no objections to this addition.
Mr. Molotov stated that he had no objection to the addition but wished to study it further.
Mr. Byrnes pointed out that in accordance with Paragraph IV of the United States proposal, the establishment of the Commission would not preclude the use of other methods of consultation on Far Eastern issues by the participating governments.
Mr. Molotov referred to the proposed Soviet amendment to Paragraph II, Section A, Subparagraph 3 of the American proposal.
Mr. Byrnes stated that the Soviet amendment was agreeable to him and that he accepted it. He accepted the entire section proposed by the Soviet Government in place of his own, except that the name of the body should remain “Allied Council” and not “Allied Control Council” as in the Soviet amendment. This matter of nomenclature could be [Page 675] discussed when the question of the Terms of Reference for the Council was reached.
Mr. Bevin agreed.
Mr. Molotov referred to the Soviet amendment to Subparagraph 3 of the United States proposal.
Mr. Byrnes stated that the Soviet amendment was accepted in substance. The American Delegation, however, had changed the language combining it with one of the paragraphs in the paper originally adopted.
Mr. Byrnes distributed the revised United States version (enclosure No. 2).
Mr. Molotov inquired whether this revised paragraph combined Subparagraphs 3 and 4 of the previous United States draft.
Mr. Byrnes replied that it did but added that it embodied the language suggested by Mr. Molotov.
Mr. Molotov inquired whether the second part of the United States revised version also applied to interim directives. Did it mean that no interim directives would be issued dealing with constitutional changes in the Japanese Government?
Mr. Byrnes replied that it did.
Mr. Molotov said that it would be necessary to study the paper more closely.
Mr. Bevin had no remarks.
Mr. Molotov proceeded to Paragraph IV. He stated that the Soviet amendment on this question need not be discussed.
Mr. Byrnes distributed a United States paper concerning the Allied Council (enclosure No. 3). He said that some changes had been embodied in it after study of the Soviet suggestions.
Mr. Molotov requested an opportunity to study the United States paper and the meeting was adjourned at 6:35 p.m.
[Page 677]- The British delegation minutes of this meeting (not printed) also list Edward Page as present with the United States delegation and Pierson J. Dixon as present with the United Kingdom delegation.↩
- Enclosure 1 contains comments relative to the Far Eastern Commission, and enclosure 1a, relative to the Allied Council for Japan.↩
- The United States delegation memorandum on the proposed revision of the terms of reference of the Far Eastern Commission is included as enclosure 3b to the United States delegation minutes of the First Formal Session of the Conference, December 16, p. 624; the proposal of the Soviet delegation regarding the Far Eastern Commission is included as enclosure 2b to the United States delegation minutes of the Third Formal Session of the Conference, December 18, p. 662.↩
- Reference is to a note to the Soviet Government delivered pursuant to instructions contained in telegram 7106, August 21, to London, repeated to Moscow as telegram 1881, printed in vol. vi , section entitled “Surrender of Japan …”, Part I.↩
- Original British proposal relative to the Far Eastern Commission was contained in aide-mémoire from the British Embassy to the Department of State, August 30, printed in vol. vi , section entitled “Surrender of Japan …”, Part I.↩
- The United States delegation memorandum on the proposed revision of the terms of reference of the Far Eastern Commission is included as enclosure 3b to the United States delegation minutes of the First Formal Session of the Conference, December 16, p. 624.↩
- The proposal of the Soviet delegation regarding the Far Eastern Commission is included as enclosure 2b to the United States delegation minutes of the Third Formal Session of the Conference, December 19, p. 662.↩
- See enclosure 3c to the United States delegation minutes of the First Formal Session of the Conference, December 16, p. 626.↩
- Revised text of the memorandum of December 16, p. 624.↩
- Revision of the United States delegation memorandum of December 16, p. 626.↩