161. Notes of a Conversation1

0710

S [Shultz] PN [Nitze]

Damn good! (shake hands) What we came for.

PN: Last sent. On SLCMs took 1.5 hours. I sd it cd onl be done if each side made unilat declarations of how many they wd have. Not verifiable I said, because of conventional SLCMs. I sd if that’s the way you wd see it, I was prepared to agree on it. They were full of talk about trust, etc.

On Space + def I cdn’t get them to buy Linhard’s 3 sentences.

Came close to one sent on INF that “Asia the pt of non agmt.

S: give me all the points as you came close so I can prepare the P.

PN: on testing they wanted first sentence on nego a CTB. I sd no—shd be last sentence.

On Defense + Space our 3 sents were

- how to synchronize investigation of SDI w goal of eliminating all b/ms?

- under what conditions could both [illegible] transition to stratg defences?

- until then, what understgs about ABM + advanced defenses?

S—on testing, we have more fortcoming lang in our press release (CH gets)

PN—Risk Red . . . agreed. But don’t want to say anything

-ASAT—I cdn’t agree to accelerating efforts for an ASAT ban.

S—terrific night’s work.

  1. Source: Reagan Library, Charles Hill Papers, Charles Hill Notebooks, entry for October 12, 1986. No classification marking. Drafted by Hill. The meeting began at 7:10 a.m. The editor transcribed the portion of the text here specifically for this volume. An image of the notes is Appendix F.