18. Memorandum From the President’s Assistant for National Security Affairs (Brzezinski) to President Carter1

SUBJECT

  • Holbrooke’s Negotiating Instructions for His December 7, 1977 Meeting with the Vietnamese

Attached at Tab A is Secretary Vance’s recommendations with regard to Vietnam. Holbrooke meets December 7 with the Vietnamese in Paris. The session grows out of his October 3 UNGA session with Hanoi Vice Foreign Minister Nguyen Co Thach.2 At that time, Thach stated, “(A)bout relations between our country and your country, before reaching diplomatic relations there might be a step of another kind.”

Please note that State recommends a shift from our previous position. State now proposes that in addition to our current offer (dropping of the embargo upon establishment of embassies) we provide a second alternative: opening of interest sections with no modification in the embargo.

My concern about State’s recommendation is a very simple one: this initiative gains us nothing internationally, while conceivably costing us domestically. Accordingly, I would recommend no change in our position for the time being.

RECOMMENDATION:

That you instruct the State Department to maintain our current negotiating position with respect to the Vietnamese (dropping of the embargo upon establishment of embassies).3

If, however, you decide to accept State’s recommendation to provide the second alternative (opening of interest sections with no modification in the embargo), I have these recommendations for you to make to Vance concerning the Paris meeting:

1. That Holbrooke be encouraged not to be overly appreciative of any positive Vietnamese responses concerning the three American [Page 75] yachtmen they now hold. We need not praise them for civilized behavior.4

2. That Holbrooke be encouraged not to table the interest section proposal if the Vietnamese abuse the United States in their initial presentation—something Hanoi is unlikely to do. It would be demeaning for us to be forthcoming a second time if the Vietnamese scorn us.5

3. That Holbrooke be encouraged clearly to leave the ball in Vietnam’s court at the end of the meeting, by telling them we have now made two offers and we will meet with them when they are ready to accept one of our alternatives or have a concrete reasonable proposal to make of their own. I see no reason why the burden should always be ours to make the proposals.6

Tab A

Memorandum From Secretary of State Vance to President Carter7

SUBJECT

  • US-Vietnamese Talks in Paris

Dick Holbrooke will be leaving for Paris Monday to begin the third round of normalization talks with the Vietnamese on December 7.8 I do not expect this round of talks to reach agreement, but it is important to proceed with the discussions while protecting ourselves from any domestic repercussions.

Since the last meeting (June),9 the Vietnamese have become more interested in improving relations with the U.S. In Holbrooke’s secret meetings in New York, they suggested that we explore forms of representation short of full normalization (exchange of embassies), and asked us to use “imagination” in resolving our respective “political” difficulties. Without abandoning their position on aid, the Vietnamese now seem to recognize three things: that they will not get it; that they need [Page 76] a relationship far more than we do; and that we are under no domestic pressure to normalize.

There are, of course, serious problems with Congressional reaction to anything involving Vietnam and we do not wish to offer the Vietnamese concessions or modify substantially our basic position. However, it is important to keep open the possibility for progress in future meetings. Vietnam, the 16th most populous country in the world, is already a major factor in Southeast Asia, and it is not in our interest to slip back into the pattern of animosity which existed prior to January 20, and which our actions have somewhat reduced despite Congressional constraints. In preparing this memo, we took in-depth soundings with carefully selected members of Congress to determine possible reactions to various negotiating scenarios.

Subject to your confirmation, I believe Dick should negotiate along the following lines:

Basic Position: We would repeat our earlier (and publicly-known) position: that we are ready to exchange Ambassadors and lift the trade embargo. We would continue to reject flatly the notion of an aid “obligation.” We would explain our problems with indirect aid and how we have chosen to deal with them.

Brillig: If the case of the three young American yachtsmen held by Vietnam since October 12 is not on the way to resolution by the time talks begin, Dick would raise this matter in his initial statement. We are informing the Vietnamese in advance that this will be the first order of business, and that it seriously affects our relations. (We have had a number of Congressional queries on this.)

Levels of Representation: While not accepting our position, the Vietnamese may respond with an offer to exchange trade offices or some non-diplomatic form of representation, presumably on condition that we lift the trade embargo. We would reject any such offer, but, subject to the qualification in the next paragraph, say we would consider establishment of (1) interests section or (2) consulates (both of which are important steps but short of full diplomatic relations) without lifting the embargo. It would be valuable to have a lesser form of representation in Hanoi as long as we maintain the embargo intact as a bargaining chip in moving up to embassy level later. It is likely that the Vietnamese will not accept this proposal, but if they reject it, we will have made a constructive proposal which leaves the door open to future discussion. Even if they were unexpectedly to indicate acceptance, we would make no announcement in Paris, but ask Dick to return to Washington for additional consultation with us and with Congress before deciding how best to make an announcement.

I prefer interests sections. Congress is accustomed to the idea of interests sections for countries where we consider the political relation [Page 77] ship not good enough to warrant an embassy. After the United States and several Arab countries broke diplomatic relations in 1967 (and Congress passed a resolution endorsing this break), the United States had an autonomous, fully operational interests section in Cairo until diplomatic relations were finally restored in 1974. We opened an autonomous interests section in Syria in 1974, followed by diplomatic relations. We have or have had interests sections in a number of other countries (including Cuba). There have been no negative Congressional reactions to any of these, including the Cuban arrangement.

Our consultations with the Hill indicate wide-spread support for this approach—in fact, it was preferred to our original offer by everyone we talked to because it did not yet lift the trade embargo and did not mean full recognition.

MIAs: We will continue to press for more information. However, I do not expect the Vietnamese to give us much additional information at the next round.

Recommendation:

That you approve the negotiating strategy set forth above.10

  1. Source: Carter Library, National Security Affairs, Brzezinski Material, Country File, Box 85, Vietnam, 1/77–12/78. Secret. Sent for action. A stamped notation on the first page reads, “The President has seen.”
  2. No memorandum of conversation of this meeting has been found, but a summary of the discussion is in telegram 238369/Tosec 100084 to Vance in New York, October 4. (National Archives, RG 59, Central Foreign Policy File, P84072–1226)
  3. Carter checked the disapprove option.
  4. See “U.S. Yacht Off Vietnam Apparently Seized,” New York Times, October 14, 1977, p. 10. Carter checked the approved option.
  5. Carter checked the approve option.
  6. Carter checked the approve option and initialed below the final recommendation.
  7. Secret; Nodis.
  8. The meeting was rescheduled for December 19–20.
  9. See Documents 14 and 15.
  10. Carter checked the approve option and initialed below the recommendation. See Document 19.