711.4215 Air Pollution/500

The Chargé in Canada (Boal) to the Secretary of State

No. 536

Sir: I have the honor to report that I have today discussed with the Prime Minister the Trail Smelter question and enclose herewith a memorandum of the conversation which I have prepared.

Respectfully yours,

Pierre de L. Boal
[Enclosure]

Memorandum by the American Chargé (Boal) of a Conversation With the Canadian Prime Minister (Bennett), April 19, 1934

In the course of a conversation today with the Prime Minister he brought up the subject of the Trail Smelter and asked how we were progressing in the matter. He said that he had been surprised to know the intensity of the fumes coming from various cities along the border. I said that I was not informed as to conditions in these areas, but supposed them to be in each case quite different from those at Trail, and speaking personally wondered whether there had been much damage since I had not heard of complaints. He said that he thought there probably had not been much damage. I said that we had had no response from the Department as yet on the subject of his note, but that my belief was that we would find the Department firmly disposed to treat the Trail Smelter case as the Trail Smelter case and not as a case covering the whole Canadian-United States border. If we were to try to connect up every pending question with all possible future questions, we would have a great deal of difficulty in getting anywhere on any case. The Prime Minister seemed to concur in this.

I said that I could not say much about the outlook of the Trail Smelter matter. I rather felt that the Department might not be able to approve some of the terms of the convention drafted in Washington by Mr. Read and Mr. Metzger when here [there?]; on the other hand we had the Canadian Government disposed to bring the whole border into the question before settling this one point. I said I did not know where this state of affairs might lead us unless it led us to some kind of arbitral proceeding. The Prime Minister said that this was a [Page 935] question which he had hoped to settle long ago and when it first arose, before his time in office, he did not realize how complicated it would be but certainly it was one which should not be allowed to drag on but should be settled as soon as possible because it could do nothing but cause injury if delayed. He said that as for arbitration, if it should be necessary, the machinery to be availed of was good, but it was a very expensive procedure, and on the whole the idea of our country and his going abroad to arbitrate our cases seemed a very undesirable one from the point of view of both of us.

He then said that he had had a good deal of difficulty with the Trail Smelter people. The greatest difficulty he had had, he said, had been in persuading them that they should accept the $350,000 sum for payment. He said he knew, of course, that our people had equal difficulty on their side on this and other points. This remark of his makes me wonder if he has had any intimation from Herridge in Washington that we were considering abandoning the $350,000 sum, or whether if the State of Washington claimants asked that it be abandoned or had been told that it would be abandoned this had gotten back to the Trail Smelter people and through them had reached him. He added that when the Trail Smelter suggested that assent to this figure be withdrawn by the Canadian Government he had categorically refused to do so, since having once assented to this he did not feel that the Canadian Government could afford to withdraw its assent. There seems to be no reason why he should raise this particular point of the draft agreement for comment unless he has had some intimation from somewhere and wished to make things awkward for us by implying that his Government would not deem it proper to withdraw on this point under the existing circumstances. It is my impression that he broached the Trail Smelter matter in order to make this point.

I did not pursue this subject any further with him feeling that in view of the Department’s instruction we were on delicate ground and I did not wish to be in a position of discussing this matter further with him until I had had further instructions from the Department.