315. Despatch From the Embassy in Mexico to
the Department of State1
No. 119
Mexico
City, August 18,
1958.
SUBJECT
- Exchange of Views with Mexican President and President-Elect of
U.S.-Mexican Relations
I had an extensive interview with President Adolfo Ruiz Cortines, accompanied by President-elect
Adolfo Lopez Mateos, on
August 1, and another interview with the President-elect, this time at
the residence of former President Miguel Aleman,2
on August 4, 1958. Memoranda of both conversations are enclosed.
Highlights of both interviews I would consider to be:
- (1)
- Mexican concern over Presidential visits: at the present time,
neither the present incumbent in the Presidency, nor his
successor, is in favor of a visit by President
Eisenhower to Mexico, but both would
like Lopez Mateos to
receive an invitation now to visit Washington, which invitation
could be accepted for a date after his December 1st
inauguration.
- (2)
- The steadfast refusal of President Ruiz Cortines to admit there are any economic
problems facing the country now, whereas his successor shows an
eager interest in discussing loans or other financial assistance
very soon.
- (3)
- The desire of Lopez
Mateos to have the United States continue the
ICA program in
Mexico.
My impressions of the President-elect were that he is, as of now, a
cautious, reticent and surprisingly reserved politician, who in two
interviews within a period of three days, did not display the open and
friendly disposition he had shown on my previous meetings with him,
which were, of course, before he was nominated as the candidate of the
official party last November 15. On these previous occasions, he was
more relaxed and at ease, and had the confident outlook of an
experienced political leader, with the personal attractiveness which
gained for him such wide support in diverse groups. It should be
conceded, naturally, that the meetings covered in the attached memoranda
did not present the most ideal circumstances for him to show his true
feelings; in both instances, he was clearly at a disadvantage when seen
in contrast with the present President and the former President of the
Republic.
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Lie. Lopez Mateos seemed
particularly limited in his views on international relations. Perhaps as
a result of the seven-month-long political campaign, he appeared to act
his part as the triumphant candidate of the party of the Institutional
Revolution, with its strong nationalistic and generally leftist
orientation, rather than the future president of an important American
nation, about to embark on a six-year term of national leadership. In
this sense, a beneficial observation to be drawn from these two meetings
with him is that a great deal of careful cultivation on our part will be
needed to assure his understanding of the United States, and his
effective cooperation.
[Enclosure 1]
Memorandum of a Conversation, Mexico City, August 1, 19583
PARTICIPANTS
- President Adolfo Ruiz
Cortines of Mexico
- President-Elect Adolfo Lopez
Mateos of Mexico
- The Honorable Robert C.
Hill, American Ambassador to Mexico
A few days ago I received from the Secretary of the Presidency, Lie.
Benito Coquet, the information that
President Ruiz Cortines would
wish to see me to introduce me to a friend. The interview with the
President and Lie. Lopez
Mateos resulted, and lasted for one hour and 55
minutes. General Radames Gaxiola, the President’s Military Aide, was
present as interpreter throughout.
- 1.
Presenting Lopez Mateos: The President said at
the outset that he had arranged this meeting in order to
introduce me personally to Lie. Lopez Mateos, in his own capacity as
President of Mexico and friend of Lopez Mateos. He praised
the latter, stating he is a liberal leader, forward-looking
and progressive in his policies, but conservative and
cautious on matters of importance affecting Mexico. He said
that Lopez Mateos is
a man of great capacity, in whom he had high confidence; he
had himself picked Lopez
Mateos as his successor to the Presidency. He
hoped that I would continue to deal with Lie. Lopez Mateos as I had with
him, with complete frankness and without any alteration
whatsoever in present relationships.
The President made it clear at this point that he himself
continues to act with full authority and power as President
of Mexico until the assigned day for transfer of office,
December 1, 1958. He said that he is responsible for the
conduct of the Government until that date. He
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added there will
be no changes in the fulfillment of his responsibilities in
the interim period, and that under Mexican constitutional
processes, there will be no differences in administration in
the period between the election and the end of the
President’s term of office.
The President’s words and attitudes were strong and clear on
the foregoing points. Lie. Lopez
Mateos indicated his assent, but gave me the
impression of uneasiness throughout this phase of the
conversation.
- 2.
- Visit of President
Eisenhower to Mexico?
President Ruiz Cortines
referred to his friendship with President
Eisenhower, but went on to say any
invitation to President Eisenhower to visit
Mexico is not recommendable because of the altitude. He said he
was referring to newspaper articles speculating that he might
come if invited. I pointed out that President
Eisenhower might well wish to see
President Ruiz Cortines
himself before the latter ends his term of office, but I did not
have any information in this regard. The President said
relations between the United States and Mexico are excellent, in
fact he could recall no time when they have been better than
now.
- 3.
Question of Visit of Lopez Mateos to the
United States: I pointed out that in my recent
visit to Washington, the matter of an invitation to the
President-elect had been discussed at the Department of
State. Lopez Mateos
said that he would wish to be invited, as the absence of an
invitation would be misinterpreted in Mexico. He said
Presidentelect Kubitschek of Brazil had been so invited
before his inauguration, and the Brazilian Vice President
had also gone to the United States on invitation. He
repeated with emphasis that failure to invite him in the
present period would likely be misinterpreted by the Mexican
people. The President himself nodded in agreement.
Lopez Mateos said he
did not wish to be presumptuous but would like to suggest
that an invitation might be extended by President
Eisenhower informally, perhaps by a
statement at one of his regular press conferences. The
President could say, in reply to a reporter’s question as to
whether he intended to invite the President-elect of Mexico
to visit him in Washington before his inauguration, that
official notice had not yet been given of the outcome of the
election; when official notice is received, he, President
Eisenhower, would be pleased to
extend an invitation for an informal visit to Washington, on
the same basis as similar invitations to other
presidents-elect of Latin American countries, and that he
would hope the President-elect would be able to accept.
Thereupon, a statement would be issued by Lopez Mateos in Mexico
City, expressing his appreciation of the President’s
suggestion, but pointing out it would not be possible for
him to accept the invitation before his taking office on
December 1, 1958, due to pressing matters in Mexico and a
possible constitutional obstacle to his
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leaving the country in this
period. He would go on to say he would be very happy to
accept the invitation, for a date agreeable to President
Eisenhower
afterthe inauguration.
Lopez Mateos added
that the handling of the matter in this way is extremely
important. He referred to White House Press Secretary
James Hagerty as
a good friend of Mexico, and thought it would not be
difficult to work out the arrangement of using the
President’s press conference as indicated, if agreeable with
Washington. I replied that I would report the matter
promptly to Washington.
- 4.
Economic Problems: President
Ruiz Cortines
asked whether I had any further talks with Treasury Minister
Carrillo Flores since our previous interview, ten days
before. I said I had not. The President said that on leaving
office he would turn over to his successor a balanced
budget, progressive economic development, and solid
relations with the other nations of the Americas. He showed
pride in the state of the economy, as he believes it now
exists and will remain until the end of his term. He denied
that the tourist trade has slackened off, and criticized
articles by Rodrigo de Llano in Excelsior to this effect, saying I should not
believe them, as this publisher has had personal viewpoints
contrary to those of the Government in other matters as
well, which may be reflected in his presentation of the
tourist situation. I replied that I would be less than
candid with the President if I did not say that, according
to my information, higher prices in Mexico are affecting the
tourist trade, and will affect it even more so in the
future. Reliable reports received by the Embassy indicated
that Mexico City and Acapulco are becoming known as too
expensive for the tourists that come to Mexico.
I took the occasion to mention that in the attempt to raise
$35,000,000 of additional revenue, by increasing tariffs,
the Government of Mexico was running a risk of losing the
tourist business to competing countries. The President said
that he was aware of profiteers who are responsible for the
rise in prices, but stated it was difficult to control
them.
The President did not concede that there was any problem with
regard to the balance of payments, or exports of cotton, any
more than with the tourist trade. He did concede that the
mining industry is depressed as a result of the falloff in
minerals prices.
- 5.
- United States Loan Policies: Lie.
Lopez Mateos said
that he believed the United States could assist Mexico further
by showing more flexibility in its policies on government loans.
He thought such flexibility could be made applicable to all
Latin America. I replied that as far as I knew, Mexico enjoys an
exceptional position on loans. President Sam Waugh of the Eximbank had publicly stated
that Mexico
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has the
third highest total of Eximbank loans in the entire world. Lopez Mateos said that he had
expressed his opinion to President Eugene Black of the International Bank in his
recent visit to Mexico.
- 6.
Mexican-U.S. Relations: Responding
to the President’s estimate of cordial present relations, I
expressed my appreciation that the United States had not
been made a campaign issue in the recent elections.
Lopez Mateos
immediately said that there was no reason why it should be.
I pointed out that this happy result had not always been the
same in the past. I thanked the President for the
cooperation extended by the Ministry of Foreign Relations in
the recent discussions with the representatives of the U.S.
Department of Labor, in setting procedures concerning
braceros. I also referred to the cooperation of the
authorities earlier in the week in preventing any hostile
demonstration in front of the United States Embassy by a
group of students under Communist auspices, who wished to
attack us for our action in the Lebanese crisis. The
President appeared to be pleased by both of these references
and remarked that the demonstrators had gone past the
Embassy to make their manifestation in front of the Ministry
of Foreign Relations instead.
I closed the conversation by thanking the President and Lie.
Lopez Mateos for
the opportunity to have this pleasant and profitable
interview.
General Gaxiola accompanied me to the car and expressed his opinion
that the meeting had been successful.
My observations:
- (1)
- It was obvious that President Ruiz Cortines wanted to introduce me
officially to the President-elect.
- (2)
- It was also obvious that he desired to stress that
Lopez Mateos was
his hand-picked candidate, and that he would have influence
in the new government.
- (3)
- It was also obvious that Lopez
Mateos was uncomfortable at being placed in
this position.
- (4)
- As I left, the President-elect indicated he hoped to see
me again soon. It was clear he was referring to the meeting
to take place at the residence of former President
Miguel Alemán three days
later.
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[Enclosure 2]
Memorandum of a Conversation, Mexico City, August 4, 19584
PARTICIPANTS
- Lic. Miguel Aleman, Former President of
Mexico
- Lic. Adolfo Lopez
Mateos, President-elect of Mexico
- Ambassador Robert C.
Hill, American Embassy
- Minister C. W. Gray,
American Embassy
- Counselor R. G. Leddy, American
Embassy
This interview at the house of Lie. Miguel Aleman was arranged by
Melchor Perusquia, a mutual friend of the two Mexican leaders and
myself, at the request of Lie. Lopez
Mateos. Señor Perusquia accompanied us to the meeting
at 6:00 p.m. but excused himself after the first greetings; later,
he said he thought we could talk more freely in his absence, as he
occupies no official position.
The conversation began at 6:00 p.m. and terminated at 7:35 p.m. when
Lie. Lopez Mateos departed,
saying he had another engagement. We talked informally with Lic.
Alemán for about 20 minutes more after his departure, but only with
reference to airline developments in Mexico, in which he is of
course strongly interested because of his interest in Aeronaves de
Mexico, S.A. Lic. Aleman followed closely the conversation with Lie.
Lopez Mateos, with whom
the following matters were discussed.
- 1.
- Continued Cooperation: After Lic.
Aleman had said that Lie. Lopez
Mateos was anxious to have this meeting with me
because of the reports reaching him of my demonstrated
friendship for Mexico, I said it would be the purpose of the
United States Government to continue with the President-elect,
after his inauguration, the same cooperative relations which now
exist, and that frank and open discussion, even criticism, was
the best way to assure this, as between mature men representing
friendly nations. Lopez
Mateos replied that he agreed fully; the door
will remain open to frank discussion, because it already
prevails and it should be kept that way. I said that if we had
any problems between the two countries, as should be normally
expected to arise, we could dispose of them if we brought them
up and talked about them. He replied by quoting a proverb in
Spanish, to the effect that understanding is furthered by
talking between people (“hablando se entiende la gente”).
- 2.
Presidential Visits: Reference was
made to the rumor of the possibility that President
Eisenhower might come to Mexico. I
replied that President Eisenhower had a
warm consideration for Mexico and President Ruiz Cortines, but knew of
no travel plans to Mexico. The question regarding an
inaugural delegation arose, and I said it was premature to
consider the United States delegation to the inauguration of
Lic. Lopez Mateos as
President next December 1, but I knew that our Government
was anxious to send a top delegation of United States
officials of very high rank.
Lic. Lopez Mateos said
that President Eisenhower would always
be welcome in Mexico; it is never necessary to extend a
special invitation, as he has a permanent invitation to
visit this country. Nevertheless, it would be imprudent on
the part of Mexico to have him come now, considering that
his physicians have recommended against his travel to
Denver, Colorado, which has an altitude of 5,000 feet,
whereas Mexico City is approximately 7,500 feet high. I
pointed out that the President might consider some other
part of the country of less altitude, just as President
Roosevelt had come to Monterrey; President
Eisenhower has been strongly
interested in Mexican history from his boyhood and possibly
would enjoy a visit to some typically Mexican area such as
Veracruz. Lopez
Mateos said that a visit to Veracruz would be
ideal, due to the combined development of agriculture
(coffee) and industry (petroleum and sulphur); the famous
ranch of Justo Fernandez at Jalapa, with an altitude of only
about 4,500 feet, would be an ideal place to visit. I agreed
with this reference, stating that I had stayed with Justo
Fernandez myself, and added that other areas of the country
would be of possible interest to the President, such as
Acapulco on the Pacific Coast, if he was contemplating a
trip. Lopez Mateos
said that it would be very good indeed if the President
could see the projects of port development at Ensenada and
Mazatlán, as well as Acapulco.
He then interjected that legally speaking, he himself is not
yet “President-elect” of Mexico, and will not be until the
Electoral Commission makes a formal report to the Congress
after it convenes in September. He would be President-elect
in September, and between that time and December 1, he will
have too many things to do (selection of Cabinet, plans for
new administration, etc.) to permit him to go to Washington
if invited by President Eisenhower. It
must be very clearly understood, in advance, that this will
be his situation, in order that there be no misunderstanding
in the United States. I thereupon asked Mr.
Leddy to inform Lic. Lopez Mateos of the draft
we had made of a message to Washington, outlining his
position in this regard
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(Embtel 293, Aug. 4).5 The point was reached
during this discussion that, on publication of President
Eisenhower’s possible press
conference reference to such an invitation, Lic. Lopez Mateos would state in
Mexico that certain obstacles would prevent him from
accepting before his inauguration; at this point Lopez Mateos interrupted to
say that he would be very glad to accept after the inauguration. It was then explained to
him this had been made clear in the draft, by reference to a
“mutually acceptable date for both parties”.
- 3.
Development of Tourism: The United
States is greatly interested, I said, in maintaining and
even increasing the tourist traffic of Americans to Mexico.
It presently numbers about 600,000 tourists a year. The
number of border crossings is, of course, even greater; it
has been reported as 25,000,000 persons per year at Ciudad
Juarez and 15,000,000 at Tijuana, for a total of 40,000,000
at these two ports of entry alone, all of which signifies a
very high level of trade, and particularly dollar income for
Mexico. I have been informed by Dr. Francisco
Villagran, Director of the Mexican Tourist
Bureau, that the gross dollar income for Mexico from both
sources is about $600,000,000 a year. It is very important
for both countries that this source of income for Mexico
should be maintained, as it is the essential factor in the
balance of payments, making up the difference between the
amount Mexico buys from and sells to the United States.
Lopez Mateos said
that the tourist income is, at the least, a great help.
The increase in prices in Mexico, particularly in drinks in
public places, could discourage this tourist trade, I added:
the American vacationist is only interested in enjoying
himself for a few days or weeks, and his estimate of his
vacation is liable to be affected by high cost of such items
as drinks. I suggested that it would be helpful to lower
rather than increase prices, because of the great asset at
stake. It is well understood, as Treasury Minister Carrillo
Flores had explained to me, that tariffs had to be increased
at least temporarily in order to realize $35,000,000 in
increased revenue for the Government this year, and taxes on
luxury items such as liquor may appear to be the easiest way
to obtain this increased revenue. However, it should be
foreseen that in seeking $35,000,000, the Government is
running the risk of losing some part of the gross dollar
income of $600,000,000 for tourism.
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Lopez Mateos nodded in
agreement, but laughingly said that the tourists are
responsible for the increase in prices.
The success of American resorts, such as those in Florida, in
increasing vacation patronage in the off season by offering
“package tours” for the average person was something, I
said, which Mexico might consider adopting in order to keep
the flow of tourists at a higher average throughout the
year, instead of bulking up so large in the summer season.
The favorable all-year-round climate of Mexico would make
this easily feasible. Lopez
Mateos said that Mexico City has a benign
climate both in winter and summer but it would not seem
likely that people accustomed to the hot temperature of
summer in the United States would wish to come to the warm
areas of Mexico at that time. As he did not seem to grasp
the point about the “package tours” for people of modest
circumstances, I cited to him the number of visitors I had
seen in Miami only in June, whereas in past years the Miami
hotels were deserted in the summertime.
- 4.
- Economic Conditions: From talks which I
had had with the Minister of the Treasury, Lic. Carrillo Flores,
I understood that Mexico might face some economic problems in
the near-term future, particularly with reference to balance of
payments. Lopez Mateos
said, “We are good payers and pay our interest on time”, and
laughed. He added firmly, “We shall certainly have to talk about
this very soon.”
- 5.
- Petroleum Development: We had a brief
discussion regarding petroleum. However, nothing fruitful came
of the discussion.
- 6.
Foreign Investments: Citing the
history of the development of the United States with the
assistance of foreign investments, I said that we all
admired the great progress made by Mexico in recent years
and the role which foreign investments had played. It would
be highly undesirable for any conditions to be created which
would hinder this flow of foreign capital into Mexico, as
the country has not attained the level of development Where
it can afford the luxury of dispensing with foreign sources
of capital. Lopez
Mateos said that Mexico does not indulge in
luxuries, it certainly welcomes foreign capital, but on
terms of fair treatment and conformity to its laws, with
which I agreed as a necessary condition.
I went on to say that some recent interests nevertheless gave
the impression that restrictions were being enforced, as in
the limitation on the number of automobiles which could be
assembled, in spite of the country’s great need to increase
automotive transportation and utilize to the maximum its
splendid road system, the finest in Latin America. I cited
also the difficulties which have been recently faced by some
of the sulphur producers, and the DuPont project for a plant
in Tampico. He made no reference to these cases and did not
seem to be familiar with them. I reiterated our belief that
free enterprise is the best
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form of economic development and that
within the free enterprise system, private capital must play
a part predominant over that of government loans or
participations. He did not allude to this point.
- 7.
- U.S.-Mexican Relations: Current
Matters: Concluding, I said that our meeting was most pleasant
for me, because it gave me the opportunity to bring up many
matters of interest to both governments, and to emphasize again
our desire to talk things over on an intimate and friendly
basis. We have the Point IV mission in Mexico, and will continue
it or discontinue it depending on the wishes of the Mexican
Government and the United States Government. Lopez Mateos immediately said
that it should be continued; under no conditions would he wish
it to be dropped. I referred also to the desirability of
exchanging information on Communist activities. He did not
reply, but I am not sure that he fully grasped my reference. He
did say that a frank and open discussion would always be
welcomed by him and he thought that this meeting had contributed
very much to this end.