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The Ambassador in China (Gauss) to the Secretary of State 34

No. 613

Sir: I have the honor to enclose a copy of a memorandum reporting several conversations in regard to the related matters mentioned in the subject heading.

With regard to developments in the northwest, the Embassy refers to its telegram no. 954, August 19, 1 p.m., and to subsequent telegrams on the subject.

With regard to the Sian conference (Kuomintang-Communist relations) reference is made to the Embassy’s telegram no. 1005 of September 5, 9 a.m. As logical, desirable, and correct as the solution described by Drs. Wong and Tsiang for the communist problem may appear to be, it is felt that the communists will be loath to accept such a solution. Officially they consider themselves at present under the National Government (as distinguished from the Kuomintang). So does the National Government. But what amounts to a demand for their complete abandonment of identity (territorially, politically, [Page 236] and militarily) will probably meet with opposition, because, if for no other reason, the communists will not have confidence in the Government’s promise to go through with the “quid pro quo” offer; that is, the offer of freedom to the communist party to organize and function in Chungking and in free China generally without interference. Past performance and the present repressive attitude of the Kuomintang and Government in free China support the communists’ fears.

With regard to Sino-Soviet relations, the Embassy intends to follow the matter with close attention, believing that, if and when Soviet-Japanese hostilities occur, some fundamental or basic understanding between China and the Soviet Union will be imminently and eminently desirable for the prosecution of the war and the making of the peace in this area.

Respectfully yours,

C. E. Gauss
[Enclosure]

Memorandum by the Counselor of Embassy in China (Vincent) to the Ambassador in China (Gauss)

Subject: Developments in the Northwest;
Kuomintang-Communist Relations;
Sino-Soviet Relations.

This afternoon I called on Dr. Wong Wen-hao, Minister of Economics, and on Dr. T. F. Tsiang, Director of the Department of Political Affairs in the Executive Yuan (formerly Ambassador to Russia).

After disposing of the immediate question at hand—the transportation of strategic metals to Kunming for air transport to India—the conversation with Dr. Wong turned to recent developments in the northwest. Dr. Wong expressed himself as satisfied with the way matters had turned out in Sinkiang. He said that in so far as he knew Russian troops were still at Hami but he thought fears that Russia might make trouble over the extension of Chinese Government control to Sinkiang were ill-founded. He said that, based on his observations while in Sinkiang during July and on his subsequent conversations with members of the Russian Embassy here, he felt that Russia was in no mood to place obstacles in the way of the Chinese Government’s plans for bringing Sinkiang back into the fold, politically at least. He said that the Foreign Office had already sent a representative to Tihua and that Sheng Shih-tsai had given clear evidence of his desire to subordinate the provincial administration to the National Government. The matter of the withdrawal of the [Page 237] Russian troops might prove difficult but it was not, he thought, serious. He said that the assassination several months ago of the “fourth” brother of Sheng Shih-tsai (provincial government chairman) by Chinese communist agents had thoroughly frightened Sheng (this brother was married to a Russian communist who Dr. Wong thought had engineered the assassination). Sheng had been afraid for his own life. He had written to Moscow expressing suspicion that the Russian Consul General at Tihua had been implicated in the assassination, or at least was involved in communist plotting, and asked for his recall. The Russians had replied not unsympathetically but had denied that the Consul General was engaged in any activities other than those connected with the discharge of his official duties. Dr. Wong remarked that “this was to be expected.”

General Chiang Kai-shek’s successful visit to Tihua had been the culmination of developments since July. The removal of Ma Pu-ching’s troops from northwestern Kansu to Chinghai had cleared the way for loyal contingents of national government troops thereby placing the route from Lanchow to Sinkiang safely under government control. He did not say whether government troops had entered Sinkiang but I inferred that perhaps they had not, pending withdrawal of the Russian troops from Hami.

Dr. Wong said that he knew nothing of what had taken place or was taking place at the military conference at Sian which General Chiang is at present attending. He thought however that settlement of the Sinkiang problem would faciliate the discussions at Sian with particular reference to those related to the communists in north Shensi. Without expressing any optimism that it would be, he said the communist situation should be solved and that the solution lay in the communists (government and army) recognizing the authority of the National Government and in the Kuomintang’s recognizing the right of the communist party to exist and play a role in national affairs without interference. He said that the existence within China of a communist government and army which, whatever the face-saving formal status, acted independently was an anomoly which should not be allowed to continue.

I asked Dr. Wong his opinion regarding Sino-Soviet relations in general; what he thought were the principal problems involved in those relations. He replied promptly that the situation he had just described—the communists in China—was the principal problem. He felt that, despite protests to the contrary, the communists in China were receiving aid and comfort from Russia which supported them in the attitude of independence. I asked what he thought could be done about this, suggesting that some understanding between China [Page 238] and Russia along the lines of the recent Anglo-Soviet treaty35 might be worth considering (when, as anticipated, Japan attacked Russia in Siberia) as a means of settling the problem he mentioned and of removing Chinese suspicions and distrust which no one could deny existed. He agreed adding that there were no fundamental problems between China and Russia that could not be solved. In fact, there was only the problem of the position of the Chinese communists in China and the attitude of the Russians toward them. He had no fear of Russian territorial designs upon China (Manchuria) at the conclusion of the war. There ensued some discussion of the desirability of China and Russia arriving at a basic understanding prior to peace rather than waiting for a peace conference to reach (or debate) such an understanding. I said that with mutual goodwill it should not be difficult to do so and that certainly the possibilities were worth exploring.

Dr. Tsiang and I discussed Ambassador Davies’ book36 on Russia and also a monograph which Dr. Tsiang had done some years ago on Russo-Chinese relations. He said that he was the “expert” on Far Eastern affairs to whom Mr. Davies referred in his book; that he and Mr. Davies had been close friends while they were together in Moscow. I asked for a copy of Dr. Tsiang’s monograph but he said that there was no copy in Chungking; that it had not been translated into English; and that it only dealt with early Russo-Chinese relations from their beginning down to 1860. He spoke of one heretofore unpublished document he had found in Peking regarding the peace of 1860 which terminated the 1858–60 hostilities between China and the Anglo-French combination. He said that in this official Chinese paper he found the statement that, although it had been England and France which had made war on China and advanced to Peking, Russia was the nation against which China should be on guard.

The foregoing statement provoked a general discussion of present and prospective Sino-Soviet relations. There was nothing new in his remarks regarding Sinkiang developments. He seemed optimistic; mentioned a Russian “brigade” in Sinkiang as one of the principal still unsettled problems; said he did not feel that Russia really had political ambitions in Sinkiang; and considered commercial relations between Russia and Sinkiang as “natural as those between Canada and the United States”.

With regard to the Sian conference, he, as Dr. Wong, hoped for a solution of the communist problem. The problem and the solution he described in almost identical terms as Dr. Wong. He was not opposed [Page 239] to a communist party in China but he was opposed to a communist government and army acting independently in China. He felt that, although the relation between the Chinese communists and the National Government was an internal problem, it involved relations between China and Russia. He believed that a satisfactory understanding between Russia and China with regard to Chinese communists or communism in China was essential to any fundamental agreement between the two countries, and that such an understanding should be simply one involving a sincere Russian undertaking to refrain from any interference in internal politics of China. He expressed himself as emphatically not among those who harbored some fear that, if Russia defeated Japan on land in the east, it would want territorial concessions in Manchuria or elsewhere. He referred back to his period as Ambassador in Moscow and said that he still felt that, had they received the support of their respective governments, he and Litvinov37 could have produced a satisfactory solution of outstanding problems. Litvinov had agreed with him that the Chinese Government could not be expected to tolerate independent or semi-independent communist administrative or military organs in China. This was in 1937. The war with Japan followed soon thereafter.

Returning to the territorial question, Dr. Tsiang said that he felt about Outer Mongolia much the same as he felt about Tibet. He had some weeks ago told me that he thought that Tibet should have the status of a self-governing dominion and that Dr. Kung held the same view. He said that if both China and England refrained from any interference in Tibetan affairs the Tibetans would be able to govern themselves at least well enough to prevent the area from becoming an international problem. China’s historical attitude toward Outer Mongolia had been mistaken. The Mongolians were in no sense Chinese and there was no valid reason for denying them self-government.

The sum and substance of Dr. Tsiang’s remarks on Sino-Soviet relations was that, if Russia would give a sincere pledge to refrain from interference (actively or by propaganda and 3rd International tactics) in China’s internal affairs particularly as they related to Chinese communism, a fundamental understanding between the two countries along the lines of the Anglo-Russian treaty would not be difficult to achieve. I said I thought the Russians might be prepared to give such a pledge.

In connection with these conversations with Dr. Wong and Dr. Tsiang, I recall remarks made to me by Dr. Kung some ten days ago in the course of a general discussion on political and military developments. Dr. Kung said that the Russian attitude toward the communists [Page 240] in China was the principal obstacle to easy relations between Russia and China and was sceptical with regard to the feasibility of any basic agreement between the two countries. He admitted the desirability, however, of reaching an early, pre-peace understanding with Russia and commented that “American influence with Russia is very strong at this time and America might be able to do something to bring about a satisfactory understanding or agreement.”

John Carter Vincent

(Note: In considering the foregoing comments of Dr. Wong and Dr. Tsiang, it should be borne in mind that these two officials represent a more moderate or liberal point of view regarding Chinese Communists and Russia than is to be found generally among leading military and Kuomintang officials who are by and large anti-communist and suspicious of Russia to a degree that is unreasoning and prejudicial to national unity and long-view interests. However, it is felt that the viewpoint of Drs. Wong and Tsiang is well worth consideration as representative of a large element in and out of the government which does not sympathize with the one-party “reactionarism” of the Kuomintang and military leadership as now composed. J. C. V.)

  1. In a memorandum dated October 16 from the Adviser on Political Relations (Hornbeck) to the Under Secretary of State (Welles), Mr. Hornbeck invited attention to this despatch and its enclosure.
  2. Signed at London, May 26, 1942, League of Nations Treaty Series, vol. cciv, p. 353.
  3. Joseph E. Davies, Mission to Moscow (1941).
  4. Maxim Litvinov, former Soviet Commissar for Foreign Affairs.