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The Ambassador in Italy (Page) to the Secretary of State

My Dear Mr. Secretary: I am sending you a copy of a letter which I have written Colonel House and which I hope will bring him to Italy before he gets his impressions too strongly deepened in an atmosphere which just at present is about as little in sympathy with Italy as can be imagined.

I would be glad to have the President see this letter. I mean to keep Colonel House very fully informed of what goes on here, and there is such seething just now that the sentiment may change almost from day to day. Those with whom I come in contact are beginning to feel very strongly that Italy should make an offensive and I should not be surprised if General Diaz has to do so or give place to some one else,—Should his military judgment, which I incline to think sincere, be as strong as McClellan’s was when before Richmond and deter him from taking an offensive himself.

The dash that Italy is making in Albania at present is intended to off-set the inaction of General Diaz on the Piave front, but public opinion here seems to be focusing on an offensive as soon as the Piave, which is now in flood, falls sufficiently to admit of possible success. People say that Diaz has won his laurels in his successful defeat of the enemy on the Piave when he drove him back across the river and is afraid to risk what he honestly believes will be a defeat. It is possible that there is something in this view. There is also another strong influence against an offensive: That of those who say that the Allies are winning already and Italy has lost so much that she should not sacrifice more from any political motive while the Allies are doing so well. I know that some of the ecclesiastics are taking this view, and one can never tell how strong the views of the Church may be with any particular person here in Italy. Diaz is considered to be sustained by Signor Nitti, who is more or less responsible for him.

It may, however, all be over long before this letter reaches you, and we may be on the road to peace. If we are, please say to the President that I know who won this war and made the road to peace. I do not venture to say what I think about it all, but it’s enough.

With cordial regards [etc.]

Thos. Nelson Page
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[Enclosure]

The Ambassador in Italy (Page) to Colonel E. M. House

My Dear Colonel House: I am enclosing in a letter to Frazier19 a personal letter inviting you and Mrs. House on behalf of Mrs. Page and myself to come and be our guests at the Embassy while you are in Rome. We can arrange also for any members of your personal entourage, one or two with us and others at an hotel nearby.

I am sending now, as you know, to Paris copies of all telegrams sent by me relating to the situation here in Italy so that you may have such information before you as I send to America. Information, however, in letters and telegrams falls very far short of that which one gets from being in the atmosphere himself, and no where does that which we attempt to describe by that word indicate so truly the realities of things as here in Italy. There is, in fact, no way in which you could obtain a true comprehension of what Italy is and stands for, and will probably stand for in the future, without coming here where you will be able to meet and talk with and test for yourself the men who not only represent Italy at present but will very likely represent her in the negotiations which may take place before a great while and in the period following the conclusion of peace.

I deem it, therefore, of great importance, on this and on many other accounts besides this, that you should come here and see and feel for yourself the whole complex combination of sentiments, principles and purposes which together make up the Italy which you will have to deal with when the time comes for adjusting matters so as to [sic] a just and durable peace. It is not a hard journey from Paris, everything will be made easy for you and I can assure you of a very sincere welcome on the part not only of ourselves at the Embassy but on the part of the Italian Government. I have had two conversations with Baron Sonnino, and he informs me that he has telegraphed Washington and also Paris and intends to telegraph to England—or possibly has already done so—urging you to come to Italy this time. And I will say come before you get your impressions of Italy out of the French atmosphere. I suggest this not only because Italy has felt very neglected in the past, and there is always danger that such a feeling may deepen into an idea that she is intentionally slighted, but because she has been neglected and she does feel isolated and the consequences should she think herself slighted would not cease with the close of this war, but would continue and might have a disastrous effect hereafter on our relations. The other reason why I am particularly urgent in this matter is that there is a strong feeling [Page 165] here in Italy that France is cutting her off from America for her own purposes and prevents her getting in touch with those in America who if they came to know Italy really would understand her and have a very different apprehension of what she represents than at present exists among Americans. There is a strong feeling in Italy anyhow against France and this has unquestionably deepened in these last months, and it is no uncommon thing to hear this feeling expressed in terms which represent real antagonism and may, in the future, represent hostility sufficient to injure the smooth working of what the President has in mind. The rivalry between the Italian and the French forces on the other side of the Adriatic, and the race which they are making to get possession each before the other of towns and regions, is only an expression of the feeling I mention, and the failure of Italy to place her army and her fleet under the command of the French Commander in Chief and of the French Admiral, commanding in the Mediterranean, is to some extent also an expression of the same feeling. Nor is this feeling confined to Italy and the Italians. It exists in an equal degree and possibly in an even more exasperating form among the French toward the Italians, and there is danger of the feeling becoming so general that our enemies may be able to take advantage of it, if not at the council table, which is also a possibility,—at least as soon as the war is over.

There is in Italy a certain element composed of very diverse classes which is perhaps more friendly even now to the Central Empires than to France, and they are ready to avail themselves of every opportunity to testify their preference. Italy says—I use this term as representing not only the element above referred to but Italians generally—that France is “squeezing” her and, lying across the highways to England and America, absorbs substantially everything that she can and allows Italy to have only what leaks through. And she says further that not content with this, France is now endeavoring to seize all she can to the east of her and cut her off from any development in that direction.

You see there are many men in public life here in Italy that are familiar with the whole progress of France’s relation to Italy from the demand by her of Nice and Savoy down to the seizure of Tunisia in the early eighties after France had threatened to bombard Genoa should Italy take Tunisia. The Triple Alliance was the direct outcome of this last move on the part of France, and Italy’s whole foreign policy—speaking in general terms—for the last thirty or thirty-five years has been directed with special reference to the Balkans and the eastern Mediterranean. The questions touching the Balkans and the eastern Mediterranean are those which lie at the very foundation of the war. Now, no one can understand the [Page 166] questions touching the Balkans and the eastern Mediterranean without coming to Italy. He may not do so even then, but without coming it is impossible. One might as soon, or sooner, indeed, understand the Negro question in America without going to the South. I cannot emphasize too much the importance of this visit which I am urging on you.

The final success of Mr. Wilson’s plan which you have come over about may hinge on your coming here and feeling out the situation for yourself. The future of the Jugo-Slav and the Czech-Slovak States may hang upon your doing so, as may the sound and equitable adjustment of the questions relating to the Adriatic and the regions beyond, on whose equitable and sound adjustment will depend the possibility of a final, durable peace.

I will not add more to this letter at this time, but shall probably send you another letter by the pouch which is due to leave here on Friday. I will only add that the feeling between France and Italy, which you will be able to judge of at least on the French side for yourself before you have been in Paris long, disturbs me very much. I do not undertake to say on which side the chief fault lies. Italy has undoubtedly been “squeezed” as she says, and her people have undergone privations and hardships incomparably greater than anything that has occurred in France. She has lost more than a million and a half men and no one could see the way in which her people have endured what they have had to undergo without feeling immeasurable sympathy with them.

I will not in this letter enter into the political reasons which I think require our taking more account of Italy than we are doing. This I will leave until next time. Some of them I have been setting forth in my letters to the President which I rather suppose you have seen, but those reasons are more cogent now than ever before, and I feel that you will take them into consideration.

There is a rumor that Austria has made just now a separate peace offer to Italy. The last story of this kind was in circulation about ten days ago, or rather the story was that negotiations were going on, and this Sonnino stamped as a “confounded lie.” There is a better founded rumor that Italy is going to make an offensive very soon. It was to have been made last week but the torrential rains put the Piave in flood and prevented it. The public sentiment is so much in favor of it that I believe General Diaz will have to start an offensive even against his own judgment or else yield to someone else.

You will hear much of the refusal of Italy to put her armies under the Supreme Command of Marshal Foch. The reason for this lies in the feeling which she has about France, to which I have already alluded, and, I believe, in what also relates to that feeling, that is, [Page 167] the apprehension that the Italian people who have been coaxed along, or inspired by the idea that their generals are not inferior to those of France, might resent their armies being placed under a French general to the point of refusing to accept it.

Now I will close this letter that you may have an opportunity of “digesting” it.

Always [etc.]

Thos. Nelson Page
  1. A. H. Frazier, counselor of embassy at Paris.