Mr. Combs to Mr. Hay.

No. 69.]

Sir: Referring to your instruction No. 30, dated April 18 last, I have the honor to report I took the matter of a naturalization treaty up with Mr. Barrios by letter, a copy of which is inclosed, marked No. 1.

In due course I received his letter of May 28 last, copy and translation of which is attached, marked No. 2, in which, as you will see, he maintains the position that “Guatemalans naturalized in another country are upon their return to Guatemala again subject to the obligations of their primitive nationality, from which there is no exemption.”

I rejoined with a note, a copy of which is hereto attached, marked No. 3, in which I stated “When once a foreign-born citizen of another country has legally become a naturalized citizen of the United States no other power on earth can take his rights and privileges from him.”

I also thanked him for his promise to study the question and warned him of the difficulties likely to arise should the matter be unarranged.

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I inclose the copy of a note from Mr. Posadas, marked No. 4, showing his appreciation of the course taken by the Department of State in the affair of his son.

I have, etc.,

Leslie Combs.
[Inclosure 1.]

Mr. Combs to Mr. Barrios.

Sir: I have the honor to copy, for transmission to your excellency, the following paragraphs from a recent instruction received from my Government at Washington:

The interview of March 21 referred to was that in which I had the honor to discuss the Posadas case with your excellency. A portion of the instruction reads literally: “You report an interview on the subject which you had with the minister of foreign affairs on March 21, when he took the ground that many Guatemalans went to the United States for a few years to obtain naturalization papers to avoid the duties and obligations of citizens, and then returned to Guatemala, where all their property interests lie,” and, “that the constitution of the country declared all persons born in Guatemala subjects and citizens of Guatemala whenever they were in the country, no difference in what or how many other countries they had obtained citizenship.

“From an examination of the copy of the Guatemalan constitution which we have here, it would appear that it contains nothing more than a provision similar to that in our own Constitution that all persons born in the country are citizens thereof. Your dispatch would seem to indicate that the Guatemalan constitution contains a provision denying the right of expatriation. If such be the case, then the same question of dual allegiance which we have with Russia and Turkey would arise, and a satisfactory solution of the question could be afforded by the conclusion of a treaty of naturalization with Guatemala, if that country will agree to it. The Department will be pleased to have you send to it a copy of the present constitution of Guatemala for its use in considering the matter.”

I reported, at the same time, an interview with President Estrada, a part of which was as follows: “We had a full discussion, which resulted in his agreement to have the order of detention imposed upon Posadas canceled; to not ask a forced loan from him; and to refer the principle here involved to Mr. Lazo Arriaga, at Washington, for discussion and settlement.”

Submitting the above statements, I request your excellency to give me the necessary data that I may inform the Department of State:

  • First. If the Guatemalan constitution or laws deny the right of expatriation, and, in the event there is such prohibition by the laws or constitution, request that you supply me with a copy of same for transmission.
  • Second. I would also be pleased to know if it would be agreeable to your excellency’s Government to carry out the suggestion made by the Secretary of State of the United States that a treaty of naturalization be formulated between our Governments.

With sentiments, etc.

Leslie Combs.
[Inclosure 2.—Translation.]

Mr. Barrios to Mr. Combs.

Mr. Minister: On the 9th instant your excellency was pleased to address me a note in which, after transcribing to me the instructions which you had received from the Department of State at Washington, concerning the Posadas case, you ask me if our constitution or laws deny the right of Guatemalans to expatriation; and if my Government is disposed to enter into a treaty with the United States of America concerning naturalization.

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Acceding, with pleasure, to the wishes of your excellency, I have the honor to make known the following:

Although it is a fact, as indicated by the Department of State at Washington, that the constitution of Guatemala makes no allusion to the case of a Guatemalan naturalized in a foreign country, it was not necessary that it should, especially since such cases are comprehended in the provision of Article V, paragraph 1, of the fundamental law of Guatemala, which considers as native Guatemalans all those persons born or that may be born in the territory of the Republic, the exception established by said article applying only to children of diplomatic personages.

But if it is desired to find a provision perfectly applicable to the case of Posadas, naturalized in the United States, we have Article VIII of our law concerning foreigners, which says that the Guatemalan naturalized in another country is, upon his return to Guatemala, again subject to the obligations of his primitive nationality from which there is no exemption. This law, which considers the nationality of a Guatemalan merely suspended while he remains absent from the Republic, is in conformity with our constitution; a logical conseqence thereof applicable to concrete cases such as that of Posadas.

I remit to your excellency a copy of our constitution and also one of our law relating to foreigners, in accordance with the request contained in the note to which I am replying. Concerning the naturalization treaty to which your excellency alludes, I shall study the question with pleasure, that we may later on endeavor to carry it to a conclusion.

In the meantime, kindly accept, etc.,

Juan Barrios M.
[Inclosure 3.]

Mr. Combs to Mr. Barrios.

Sir: I have the honor to acknowledge the receipt of your excellency’s note of the 28th of May last, expressing the view of the Government of Guatemala concerning the status of American citizens born in Guatemala and note the laws quoted, which are deemed by you to warrant that position. Your consititution does not prohibit expatriation, and when once a foreign-born citizen of another country has lega/iy become naturalized as a citizen of the United States no other power on earth can take his rights and privileges from him.

I note, therefore, with pleasure your promise to study the question of a naturalization treaty, that we may later endeavor to carry it to a conclusion, that we may have no conflict between our laws.

I fear future complications and irritation should these differences be unarranged.

With assurances, etc.,

Leslie Combs.
[Inclosure 4.]

Mr. Posadas to Mr. Combs.

Sir: On the 10th instant I had the honor of communicating to you by telegram my obligation to you for the protection extended by you to my son Alberto against the oppressive measures sought to be used by the local authorities against him. I beg now more fully to repeat the expression of my thanks and to explain to you the lack of foundation for the pretense that he is a citizen of Guatemala. I left that country with my family in 1890. Since that date our home has been in this city. Albert was at that time not 10 years of age. When he reached his majority he chose this country as that of his citizenship and obtained the right under its laws. At the very moment at which he reached his manhood he took the oath of fidelity to the United States and received from it the invaluable evidence of his adoption as one of its citizens.

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I beg you will excuse the following recital in view of what may happen hereafter. I have been a resident of this city since 1890. My home was built by myself here. It has been constantly occupied by my family. My two younger sons were born in it. Their evidence of their nativity is recorded in this country. I am a naturalized American citizen. I have property of some value at Mazatenango, Guatemala, in charge of my agents, whose instructions require them to fulfill faithfully and who do actually perform all the duties imposed by the laws with regard to such property. The President, Mr. Cabrera, since his ascension to office has constantly sought to injure me. In 1898 my brother, then a member of the national assembly, was my representative in that country. This unfortunate brother was murdered, shot in the back, at the very doors of the political prefecture of Mazatenango. I instructed my new agent that he should constitute himself the accuser of the murderer and his accomplices. When judicial sentence had been pronounced against the chief of these, Cabrera ordered the gates of the prison to be opened for his benefit in violation of the law which forbids the President to use the pardoning power when there is an accuser. I was compelled to be silent, because I knew what the will of the President is to all the citizens of Guatemala, as it was to my brother, the only law. In November, 1902, the political chief of Mazatenango made up his mind to take 80 fat steers from my haciendas. He did not carry out his intention, because my agent at that time, Don Juan Maria de Leon, informed him that the property belonged to an American. Lastly, as you know, the same authority undertook to make my present representative, my son Albert, pay $60,000 as war expenses, for which I am not bound as a naturalized American citizen. We shall see what further attacks follow, but I trust that you, sir, will be able to protect my property, not only because of my American naturalization, but also because of the citizenship of my minor children, who were born here and of right are children of this country.

Accept, sir, my lasting gratitude for the important service which in such good season you were able to render to my house, and if in anyway I can be of service to you in this city, command, etc.,

J. Zenón Posadas.