Office of the Historian

309. Transcript of Telephone Conversation Between Secretary of State Kissinger and the Soviet Ambassador (Dobrynin)1

Washington, June 18, 1975, 9:12 a.m.

D: In connection with this parameter. What he [Gromyko?] is verifying is before taking a final position, he said all of this mentioned about parameters was clear misunderstanding. He said you discussed it with him in Vienna.

K: That is correct. I know there are some of our Western allies that are changing their minds on that but we will not support them.

D: I will tell him you will support it.

K: I will firmly support it.

D: I mentioned this to him yesterday.

K: Also tell him I made this clear to the Germans yesterday.2

D: I will say on behalf of NATO. …

K: I think we can hold that together. I think the Dutch or one or two others will object but we will not go along with it. I am quite confident that we can hold this.

D: This is one question he was asking me urgently to give him a reply.

K: Right.

D: If you could see me today about our meeting.

K: It may be better on Monday.3

D: O.K. with me.

K: We will do it on Monday.

  1. Source: Ford Library, National Security Adviser, Kissinger and Scowcroft West Wing Office Files, Box 3, Dobrynin/Kissinger Telcons (3). No classification marking.↩
  2. No record of this June 17 meeting has been found. For Genscher’s meetings with Kissinger on June 16, see Documents 305 and 306.↩
  3. June 23.↩