188. Transcript of Telephone Conversation Between the President’s Assistant for National Security Affairs (Kissinger) and the Soviet Ambassador (Dobrynin)1
D: Two things I would like to mention to you. First, I am going home for consultations on Wednesday.2 Before I go I have something I would like to tell you about the question you raised.
K: Would you like to come out here?
D: No, I will probably write to you. I will put it in a paper then and give it to your man. The essence is that we are prepared to do this one but it should be on a mutual basis and take into consideration the political settlement.
K: What does mutual mean?
D: I mean only one side … obligation.3
K: But we don’t have any.
D: Then it is better for you.
K: I understand and that is the right way to put it.
D: Same as on the question of arms limitations. Same as before and in the same context we are prepared to discuss the second question you raised. I will put it as briefly as possible and give it to your man.
K: I will send Colonel Kennedy again.
D: My government considers it very important our contacts on the Middle East.
K: Between our governments or you and me?
D: It is the same thing. I mean our contacts, you and me and then general. But first our contacts.
K: I appreciate all of this—how long will you be gone?
D: I don’t know—maybe two to three weeks. After the consultations I will spend some time with my family. Maybe to the end of August. You don’t have anything to say about the European thing I discussed with you?
K: No, except we are going to try to apply them in a constructive spirit.[Page 581]
D: If you have anything to tell me I will be here till Wednesday.
K: Let me talk to the President today. I will call you in any event before you leave. And don’t be gone too long—you don’t want me to get into mischief.
D: No, I am sure there will be no problem.
K: It seems to be going along well.
D: I will tell you what—not a unilateral approach and second is the political settlement and third—there are really three things—the importance of the contacts and we can work out a settlement on the Middle East.
K: I will talk to the President, but should I send Colonel Kennedy over immediately?
K: I will send him over in the next hour.