214. Telegram From the Delegation at the United Nations to the Department of State1
Secto 31. Subject: Call on Secretary by Pakistan Min Fuel and Power Bhutto. Following from uncleared memo of conversation:
[Page 397]1. Five Power Resolution
In call on Secretary morning Oct 5, Min Fuel Bhutto expressed concern over attention paid to reps of neutralist countries by US at expense of friendly “committed” nations like Pakistan. Stated Pak FM had not come to UN in part because of US lack of enthusiasm over Khrushchev visit and his invitation to neutralist leaders. Bhutto stated frankly that man-in-street in various countries regarded US as most anxious appease neutralists, whom he described as immoral. Obviously smarting under Pak exclusion from confidence Afro-Asians because of committed position, he felt US, which had made mistake in being overly cordial to neutralist leaders, should do more to show its confidence in true friends. Secretary explained Pres had been unable refuse to see heads of govt in NY during his visit; US had not encouraged interviews.
Min described Afro-Asian meeting of Oct 4 as Indian effort exert pressure on Afro-Asians to support Five-Power res completely or be branded as enemies of peace. Said meeting held under guise of fare-well of departing leaders to their colleagues, but actually was pressure play in effort establish neutralists as guiding force in UN. Bhutto stated his belief Menon had conceived res, said neither Nasser nor Sukarno appeared fully familiar with implications. He had talked privately with Nasser and had heard Nkrumah speak and obvious to him resolution put together hastily under Indian sponsorship with Tito joining in attempt to enhance his prestige by pushing it. Bhutto had told Nasser that Nehru effort to “break ice” might break UN apart. Bhutto thinks a climate for peace must be built before there can be any effective negotiation.
Min declared Pakistan in quandry about res; Paks had met with Menzies on Australian amendment, but thought if nothing more affirmative forthcoming, his Del would have to support Five-Power res lest [source text illegible] isolated completely from neighbors. He claimed credit for inspiring Argentines introduce amendment so free world would not have to be negative.2
Secretary stated frankly concerned about precedent involved in Five-Power res, since no end to possibilities of individual leaders being pressured to meet (example—Nasser–Ben Gurion3). Preferred past UN reses which had been directed to govts. Said no final decision on res but Pres being consulted. He knew Pres would not change position on meeting Khrushchev under present circumstances and hoped res might emerge which followed usual pattern; otherwise, US inclined [Page 398] not to have anything to do with effort. We valued Paks loyal support for free world efforts and know they would continue helpful in common effort.
[Here follows discussion of Pushtunistan.]
3. Role of Neutralist Countries
Bhutto stated had told Nehru, Tito and Nasser that all should concentrate on removing causes of friction in their own areas rather than attempting pressure in UN. Secretary agreed this would be better employment of energies. Min said he was hopeful on discussions between India and Pakistan growing out of Indus Waters settlement, for which Pakistan grateful to US, IBRD and other efforts to solve problem.
4. Chinese Representation
Bhutto affirmed Pak support for US position on ChiRep moratorium, but declared his country under considerable pressure from ChiComs on logic of position (Paks recognize CPR) and on case made by ChiComs that Indians support CPR seating in UN despite border troubles, while Paks oppose it despite restraint of ChiComs about Pak borders. Secretary acknowledged difficulty with ChiRep issue but pointed out ChiComs are condemned aggressors who show no desire meet conditions of UN charter. Bhutto agreed with US view.
[Here follows discussion of Algeria.]
6. Khrushchev Movements
Responding to Bhutto query, Secretary said his present estimate Khrushchev movements would be affected by failure or success of effort to get disarmament item allocated to plenary. If he could succeed, he would be likely to remain and make more propaganda. Bhutto agreed it would be illogical and useless to have disarmament discussed in plenary, where it would become simply propaganda sounding-board, whereas small expert group might make real progress.
Lewis Jones and Hope present.
- Source: Washington National Records Center, RG 59, Conference Files: FRC 83–0068, CF 1769. Confidential. Repeated to Karachi. Drafted by Hope and cleared with Seip. A memorandum of this conversation shows the meeting took place at Waldorf Towers at 10:45 a.m. (Ibid., CF 1767)↩
- During deliberations the evening of October 5, Argentina proposed on a point of order that the U.N. General Assembly consider separately the phrases “the President of” and “the Chairman of the Council of Ministers of” in the five-power draft resolution.↩
- David Ben Gurion, Israeli Prime Minister and Minister of Defense.↩