893.00/8–1644: Telegram

The Ambassador in China (Gauss) to the Secretary of State

1416. Timberman reports to HQ under date August 15 he and Ringwalt (our 1409, August 15) had “conference” of 1 hour with Marshal Li Chi-shen substantially as follows.

“Li was informed by Ringwalt of ‘Embassy’s hands off policy’. In answer to question of United States backing by [of?] Li, I said I could not answer as this was question for decision in Washington. I said my presence here was solely in connection with military situation. Li said Chinese people are discouraged by corruption in administration and by Chungking’s neglect of the army and that movement was intended only to serve needs of Chinese people; that 60% of taxes collected in area by Central Government with no local benefits and that there was no desire to fight in the army and that Tenth Army fought only at Hengyang. Li said Chungking afraid to fight, Generalissimo had forbidden recruiting army up to strength and during past year some 40% had disbanded under pretext of cutting down expenses. Li said “that he himself controlled all troops this area through loyal leaders and he would re-arm them, feed them and recruit them to strength. In regard to west China communications he was vague but stated he could use better administration and improve them. He sees no reason for armed conflict as soldiers he desires would not be in opposition to his movement. He said he intended to carry out his plans irrespective of Jap moves but thought that Japs would not move further south and if they attempt further offensive it will be aimed at Chungking or Kunming. Ringwalt requested that we be kept informed of developments in view of our interest in rapid defeat of Japs.”

Timberman commented that he believed Li’s main purpose was concerned with southeastern China only but movement might spread elsewhere because of general discontent: that he was refreshed by Li’s enthusiasm and candor; and that while Li did not indicate when he would move openly Ringwalt concurred in feeling this would occur within 30 days.

2. Ringwalt reports same date through Army as follows:

“Irrespective whether aid is rendered by United States or dissident leaders elsewhere in this country, leaders will proceed with South [Page 510] China plans according to head of committee and Kukong will possibly be seat. The ‘powers’ of Kwangsi, Kwangtung, Fukien and Hunan will ‘absolutely’ support movement. It was reiterated movement not to set up permanent dissident government but that present Chungking Government will end with resignation of Generalissimo and cause establishment democratic, capable regime for real prosecution war and good of China. Pai Chung-hsi [is] said [to have] left for Chungking to confer with Generalissimo. Political rather than military considerations have dictated solidarity operations this idea principally by 79 Army according to Z Force officers. Units returning from front are well equipped and in good physical condition”.

Gauss