867N.01/1363

The Chargé in the United Kingdom (Johnson) to the Secretary of State

No. 1736

Sir: I have the honor to enclose a memorandum of a conversation which a member of the Embassy staff today had with Mr. C. W. Baxter of the British Foreign Office, regarding the present status of preparations for the forthcoming London discussions on Palestine.

Respectfully yours,

Herschel V. Johnson
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[Enclosure]

Memorandum by the First Secretary of Embassy in the United Kingdom (Schoenfeld)

I called on Mr. Baxter this afternoon and talked with him regarding the status of preparations for the forthcoming London discussions on Palestine.

Mr. Baxter told me that the status of acceptances was the same as it had been a fortnight ago. Egypt, Iraq, Saudi-Arabia, Transjordan and the Jewish Agency had accepted. But the Yemen’s acceptance had not yet been received and the Palestinian Arab delegation was still undetermined.

The Yemen’s acceptance, he thought, would be received in due time. The British Government had originally been in doubt whether the Yemen wished to participate and as it did not desire to embarrass that country with an undesired invitation it had sounded it out first. The Yemen indicated that it did wish to receive an invitation and accordingly could be expected to accept.

The Palestinian Arab delegation was of course the difficult problem. The leaders were scattered in various countries. The British Government naturally could not pick the delegation. He could say, however, in strict confidence, that the Government was working through the Governments of the three neighboring Arab States, Iraq, Saudi-Arabia and Egypt, and by their cooperation hoped to secure a representative Arab delegation from Palestine.

The Government here, though it reserved the right to approve of the delegation would, he thought, accept the list that the three Governments mentioned and the other interested Arabs presented to it. But the matter was not yet completed and considerable delay was occasioned by the necessity for triangular (and indeed polyangular) correspondence between the three States referred to and the Arabs in Palestine and elsewhere.

The date for the discussions, Mr. Baxter said, was also still open. The Government proposed to fix it as soon as the Palestinian Arab delegation had been named. The discussions, he thought, could not well take place before the middle of January, since the Prime Minister (Mr. Chamberlain) and the Foreign Minister (Lord Halifax) would be in Home from January 11 to 14. The former planned to return to London on January 15 whereas the latter would stop off at Geneva for a day or two for the meeting of the League Council.

I mentioned the recent debates on Palestine in Parliament and the fact that their tone had seemed to indicate a certain sympathy for the Arab point of view. Mr. Baxter said that it had also been his impression that there was a greater appreciation of the Arab viewpoint than had often been the case in the past. The Arabs, he said, [Page 1000] had usually felt that their viewpoint was inadequately presented and that the Jews, who through the Jewish Agency had almost direct access to the British Government, understood this sort of thing much better and had generally been more successful in presenting the Zionist point of view.

I asked him how the Jews felt about the forthcoming discussions. He said that the Zionists were in rather a despondent mood. They had also been keenly dismayed by the recent decision of the Government not to grant permits for 10,000 refugee children to enter Palestine at this time. The Government, however, could not risk prejudicing the success of the London discussions or of getting the Arabs to the discussions by authorizing this increased immigration on the very eve of the discussions.

I referred to Lord Samuel’s recent speech in the House of Lords,17 in which he summarized proposals he had previously advanced when the Peel Report was under discussion, looking toward a system of government by communities in Palestine, with reserved areas, immigration based on a proportional population system, etc., and a loose federation of Arab States, and asked whether this represented a practical scheme. Mr. Baxter doubted whether it would be acceptable either to the Jews or Arabs. With regard to the idea of federation, this, he said, was talked of in Damascus and some places in the Near East but it was hard to know how much strength there was behind it. The French, he thought, would dislike the idea as calculated to endanger their special position in Syria. Their interest in Syria was not only historic and sentimental but also practical, for one fork of the Iraq pipe line branched off into Syria and it had strategic importance in connection with the Suez Canal and Djibouti. As for the idea itself insofar as the Arabs were concerned, he found it hard to judge how much vitality there was in it.

  1. December 8, 1938; for text, see United Kingdom, Parliamentary Debates, House of Lords, 5th ser., vol. cxi, p. 420.