711.4115A/60
Memorandum of a Conference Held at 10 A.M., July 24, 1929, Regarding the Turtle Islands Boundary Negotiations
- Present
The British Ambassador read the attached “Memorandum for Negotiations with the United States Government Regarding the Turtle and Mangsi Islands”.
As the British Ambassador had sent to London the photostatic copies of the charts which were enclosed with the Department’s note to the British Embassy of August 20, 1927,67 Mr. Boggs, the Geographer of the Department, undertook to prepare for the British Ambassador by tomorrow morning duplicates of the hydrographic charts from which the photostatic copies had been made.
During the conference General McIntyre received a telephone message from Brigadier General Parker, Chief of the Bureau of Insular Affairs of the War Department, stating that in concurrence with the opinion expressed in the report made by General McIntyre after his visit to the Turtle Islands last October, the Governor General of the Philippine Islands did not consider it advisable to take over the administration of the Turtle Islands at this time. As was pointed out in the memorandum of General McIntyre’s conversation with Mr. Johnson on July 16,68 General McIntyre had been very much impressed, [Page 71] during his visit in North Borneo, with the difficulties which would confront the Government of the Philippine Islands in administering the Turtle Islands.
Following the receipt of the telephone message from General Parker, General McIntyre handed to the British Ambassador a copy of the attached draft treaty68a which provides for the definitive delimitation of the boundary of the Turtle Islands but (by Article 2) permits of the temporary continuance of their administration by the British North Borneo Company. It was pointed out to the British Ambassador that to take any of the steps advocated in paragraph 9 of his memorandum (namely to cede, sell, or lease the Turtle Islands) would be much more difficult than to make an arrangement such as has been provided for in the draft treaty, which would practically continue in force the present 1907 agreement with reference to administration.69
The Ambassador suggested that consideration be given to the possibility of including in the treaty merely the delimitation of the boundary and a provision that the administration of the Islands be arranged for by an exchange of notes.
Mr. Fraser stated that the Mangsi Islands are hardly more than a group of reefs lying to the northwest of the Turtle Islands and that, although they have not been referred to specifically in the correspondence concerning these negotiations, they have been administered by the British North Borneo Company under the 1907 agreement. He suggested that perhaps it might be arranged, either by a provision in the treaty or by an exchange of notes, that the British North Borneo Company continue to administer those islands which it has been administering since 1907 in accordance with the temporary agreement, thus including the Mangsi Islands as well as the Turtle Islands.
Although the British Ambassador admitted the difficulties attending any of the courses suggested in paragraph 9 of his memorandum, he suggested that perhaps the American delegation might wish to refer them to the Secretary, and asked that he be informed of the proposal which the American delegation wished to put forward after further consideration. It was understood that he intended to communicate with his Government upon receiving such a proposal.
Following the departure of the British representatives, the proposals which had been made in paragraph 9 of the British Ambassador’s memorandum were discussed. It was the opinion of the American representatives that, on account of the practical difficulties which would be encountered, it would be inadvisable to undertake to arrange for ceding, selling, or leasing the Turtle Islands to the British North [Page 72] Borneo Company, and that the method contemplated in the draft treaty would seem to offer the simplest means of achieving the important objects of the negotiations, namely, the permanent delimitation of the boundary and the temporary administration of the Islands by the British North Borneo Company. General McIntyre stated that he believed that it would be acceptable to the War Department to have the period referred to in Article 2 of the draft treaty increased from six months to one year, thus making the period the same as that specified in the temporary agreement of 1907.
It was arranged that General McIntyre would confer with Brigadier General Parker, Chief of the Bureau of Insular Affairs, and that after the memorandum of today’s conference had been given appropriate consideration in this Department, the American representatives should agree concerning the proposal which should be made to the British Ambassador, although it was not thought that any important change would be necessary in the attached draft treaty other than to change the period of six months to one year in Article 2.
There is attached a letter from General McIntyre, dated July 24, 1929, enclosing copies of the telegrams exchanged between the Bureau of Insular Affairs and the Governor General of the Philippine Islands.70
- Recently Chief of the Bureau of Insular Affairs, War Department.↩
- Assistant to the Solicitor, Department of State.↩
- Division of Far Eastern Affairs, Department of State.↩
- Recently British Government Secretary in North Borneo.↩
- Foreign Relations, 1927, vol. ii, p. 779.↩
- Not printed.↩
- Not printed.↩
- For exchange of notes, dated July 3 and 10, 1907, see Foreign Relations, 1907, pt 1, pp. 547, 548.↩
- Letter and enclosures not printed.↩
- Protocol between Great Britain, Germany, and Spain, respecting the sovereignty of Spain over the Sulu Archipelago, etc., signed at Madrid, March 7, 1885; British and Foreign State Papers, vol. lxxvi, p. 58.↩
- Treaty between the United States and Spain for the cession to the United States of any and all islands of the Philippine Archipelago lying outside of the lines described in article III of the treaty of peace of December 10, 1898, signed at Washington, November 7, 1900; Foreign Relations, 1900, p. 887.↩
- Signed at Paris, December 10, 1898; ibid., 1898, p. 831.↩
- See League of Nations, Advisory Committee on Traffic in Opium and Other Dangerous Drugs, Minutes of the Eleventh Session, Held at Geneva From April 12th to 27th, 1928, C.328.M.88.1928.XI.[O.C.816.] (Geneva, 1928), p. 32.↩
- See The Hague, Permanent Court of Arbitration, Arbitral Award Rendered in Conformity With the Special Agreement Concluded on January 23rd, 1925, Between the United States of America and the Netherlands Relating to the Arbitration of Differences Respecting Sovereignty Over the Island of Palmas (or Miangas), April 4th, 1928 ([The Hague, 1928]); see also, Foreign Relations, 1925, vol. ii, pp. 614 ff.↩