File No. 422.11G93/996

The Ecuadoran Minister ( Elizalde) to the Secretary of State

[Translation]

The Minister of Ecuador respectfully salutes the Secretary of State and has the honor to submit to him a rough draft of the conference he had with him at 11.15 a.m. on the 4th instant.

The Minister wishes to have an authorized and accurate record of that conference for transmission to the Government of Ecuador and takes the liberty of asking the Secretary of State to be so good as to make corrections wherever needed in the enclosed rough draft, a favor which will be duly appreciated.

[Enclosure—Translation]

Memorandum on a conference between the Secretary of State and the Ecuadoran Minister (Elizalde)

Señor Elizalde answered the call of the Secretary of State.

Mr. Lansing said that he wishes to aid Ecuador and warned at the same time that the interests due to the railway company must be paid in order to avoid more serious restrictions being placed by the War Trade Board on the import of cacao in the United States.

Señor Elizalde said that the moment did not appear to him to be well chosen for taking such measures, inasmuch as the customshouse receipts, which are practically the only source of revenue of the Government, had considerably decreased and a large deficit in the estimates and deep uneasiness prevail in the country on that account.

Mr. Lansing said that the exports of Ecuador this year are larger than they were last year.

Señor Elizalde replied that he had not yet received the returns, but was sure that the imports were much less than they were last year.

Mr. Lansing asked how there was money for the German contractors to build railways in Ecuador and none with which to pay the interest due to the Guayaquil & Quito Railway Co.

Señor Elizalde answered that the Cuenca railway contract had been given to a German firm, but that was before the war and that the work was started with funds specially created for the purpose without detriment to the income assigned for the service of interests on the railway bonds; he added that at present work on the Cuenca railway is suspended.

Mr. Lansing insisted that the interests must be paid in accordance with the Ecuadoran estimates of 1917, which he showed to the Minister, and certain parts of which were pointed out by Mr. Lansing.

Mr. Lansing added that he thought that his opinion would have weight with the War Trade Board and that he would be glad to have in the promise of resumption of payment of those interests a good argument to bring against a reduction of cacao imports.

Mr. Lansing then said that the publication by the Government of Ecuador of certain notes exchanged with the American Legation at Quito had created a very bad impression and that it should not have been done.

Señor Elizalde declared that when it happened and when Mr. Hartman, American Minister at Quito, protested, Señor Elizalde called upon Mr. Polk, Counselor of the Department of State, and in expressing the regret which the protest had caused to the Government of Ecuador, then explained to Mr. Polk that the publication was made not with the object of stirring up of difficulties between the two Governments, but rather of avoiding them.

Mr. Lansing in bringing the interview to an end told Señor Elizalde that hereafter he should talk this matter over with Mr. Stabler, Chief of the Latin American Division, as Mr. Lansing is going to the country for a few days.