No. 320.
Sir Edward Thornton to Mr. Evarts.

Sir: With reference to Mr. Seward’s note of the 12th of August last, relative to encroachments said to have been made by Canadian fishermen within the jurisdiction of the United States on the shores of Lake Ontario at the mouth of the river Niagara, I have the honor to transmit herewith copy of an approved report of the privy council of Canada upon this subject, which I have received from the governor general of Canada.

I have, &c.,

ED W’D THORNTON.
[Inclosure in Sir Edward Thornton’s note of October 22, 1878.]

Copy of a report of a committee of the honorable the privy council for Canada, approved by his excellency the governor-general on the 9th day of October, 1879.

The committee of council have had under consideration a dispatch from Her Majesty’s minister at Washington, dated the 14th of August last, with certain communications therein inclosed from Mr. Seward, Acting Secretary of State of the United States.

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The honorable the acting minister of marine and fisheries, to whom this dispatch with inclosure has been referred, reports that Mr. Seward states that “he is advised by the United States Secretary of the Treasury that it is the practice of Canadian fishermen upon the shores of Lake Ontario, in the neighborhood of the mouth of the Niagara River, to cross into the United States and set their nets in the lake a few rods from the American side, and running out across the channel in which the fish reach the river, to the great injury and chagrin of American fishermen plying their vocation there; while,” Mr. Seward adds, “if an American fisherman happens to go to the Canadian side with his nets for a like purpose, they are immediately seized by the Canadian authorities.”

Mr. Seward further states that “the matter would seem to be one calling for attentive consideration on the part of the Dominion authorities,” and he expresses the desire of the American Government “that an investigation be made, and that if the facts be proved as represented, they will take proper measures to prevent these fishermen from persisting in encroaching upon the rights and privileges of the fishermen of the United States in the waters in question.”

Upon this reference the minister reports that he has not been able to ascertain that such a practice as that described by Mr. Seward exists at the mouth of the Niagara River; but he is informed that isolated acts of the kind complained of have very probably taken place; that it is difficult, however, to obtain accurate information from the fishermen on the subject; that it will be observed that the unlawful acts complained of are stated to have occurred “within a few rods of the American shore.” Their prevention would seem, therefore, to rest with the authorities of the United States, rather than with those of Canada.

It may possibly be intended to suggest that measures of prevention might be taken in advance and whilst the Canadian fishermen are still within Canadian jurisdiction. The fishermen in question all understand, it is believed, that’ they have no treaty rights of fishery on the American shore, and that they are doing an unlawful act when they cast their nets there; and, on further consideration, the minister believes it will be conceded that it is impracticable to deal with or hinder such an offense beforehand, and whilst the fisherman’s intention to visit American waters is either not formed or known only to himself.

The minister states that he has made inquiry, and cannot learn that any seizure of nets of American fishermen at the mouth of the Niagara River has been made by the Canadian authorities, and he believes that in this respect Mr. Seward has been misinformed.

A seizure, however, has been made by the American custom-house officers of the nets of a Canadian fisherman for an offense such as that described by Mr. Seward.

The minister has directed that instructions be sent to all officers of his department to warn Canadian fishermen against plying their vocation in American waters, and cautioning them that if they do, they will expose themselves to be dealt with by the American authorities; and he will at all times gladly co-operate with the United States authorities in all efforts to protect the fisheries of both countries.

The committee recommend that a copy of this minute when approved be transmitted to Her Majesty’s minister at Washington for the information of the United States Government.

Certified.

W. A. HIMSWORTH,
Clerk, Privy Council, Canada.