248. Transcript of a Telephone Conversation Between Secretary of Commerce Stans and the President’s Assistant for National Security Affairs (Kissinger)1

S: Henry, on these permits to ship to Russia?2

K: What we would like is some noticeable foot dragging. The Russians have done something which is a cheap shot3 and I would like to harass them for a week or so. Is there some way we can slow up the permit without actually withdrawing it?

S: I just wanted you to know that our procedure is that we notify the companies involved immediately, then we notify the Senators. Also [Page 730] we got word that Rockefeller had gotten the word from Dr. Kissinger.4 What would you think of issuing one or two, then waiting three or four days and issue several more a few days later and so on.

K: I would like to drag it out a couple of weeks. Let the Gleason one go and then drag the rest out a couple of weeks bureaucratically. It would be a big help if you could drag it out for a few weeks. I have your interests at heart but we want you to teach them discipline at the start of this thing. Sorry I am such a son-of-a-bitch.

S: It’s alright Henry. We will do it your way.

  1. Source: National Archives, Nixon Presidential Materials, Henry Kissinger Telephone Conversation Transcripts, Box 10, Chronological File. No classification marking.
  2. See Document 242.
  3. See Document 247.
  4. See footnote 4, Document 242.