459. Summary Record of the 512th National Security Council Meeting0
U.S. POLICY TOWARD LAOS
Director McCone read an intelligence summary of the military situation in the Plaine des Jarres.1 He estimated that the Pathet Lao had a two-to-one military superiority in the Plaine. Kong Le is apparently leaning heavily on international support to get a cease-fire. Latest information indicates that, contrary to some reports, he is not giving up. Mr. McCone referred to a message from Vientiane, a copy of which the President read (copy attached).
Secretary Rusk reported that British Foreign Minister Home had told us that the U.K. Ambassador in Moscow had been unable to see Gromyko to present a demarche on Laos because top Soviet officials were apparently in session with Khrushchev who returned to Moscow today. The British are trying to persuade the Russians to join efforts to halt the attacks on the neutralists in Laos.2 The Soviet Ambassador in Vientiane, according to our reports, is trying to be helpful in keeping the situation from deteriorating further.
Secretary Rusk emphasized that Souvanna is the key to rallying neutralists in Laos against the Pathet Lao. He made five political recommendations which are listed in the State paper attached. With respect to other measures, the Secretary recommended that there be no publicly announced military moves for the next three days. He suggested that the SEATO exercise planned for late May could be used as a cover for U.S. forces moving into the area earlier. The U.S. forces moving into Thailand would await the arrival of allied forces now scheduled to be there in early June. He believed that we should increase the number of U.S. forces in northern South Vietnam in order to be in a position, if Laos [Page 977] falls, to move into North Vietnam. We must avoid being committed publicly to supporting Souvanna with U.S. forces so that if later Souvanna rejects our support we will not be in an awkward position.
Ambassador Thompson, who had returned from San Francisco by plane to attend the meeting, noted that the Russians were accusing us of interfering in the internal affairs of Laos, but at the same time were saying that the Geneva Accords should be sustained and that the situation in Laos should return to normal. He felt that any military moves which we should take now should not be publicly announced, but that secret military moves would be useful in persuading Moscow and Hanoi of our seriousness. Khrushchev would not be in a position of publicly backing down in the face of U.S. military pressure in Southeast Asia.
General Taylor said the Joint Chiefs of Staff recommend that Admiral Felt, as CINCPAC, call at Bangkok and Vientiane and confer with the military representatives of SEATO. He said a task force consisting of an aircraft carrier and destroyers should sail from Subic Bay to the Gulf of Tonkin. The task force would cruise in the area. No U.S. forces should be put ashore now.
The President indicated he did not believe that landing U.S. forces in Hue in northern South Vietnam would be advisable because of the difficulty of removing them at a later time. He felt that if forces were to be put ashore, they should be put in Thailand. He asked what military action we could take against Hanoi.
In response, General Taylor indicated that several actions could be taken against Hanoi, such as sinking ships in the harbor, flying reconnaissance missions over North Vietnam, and the bombing of selected places. Secretary McNamara said that an additional action would be destruction of selected rail lines.
The President requested that a study be made for his consideration next week of feasible military actions to be taken against the northern Vietnamese. Secretary Rusk asked that the task force not sail out of Subic Bay today, Sunday their time, but rather on Monday3 when it would be possible to say that the task force was engaging in routine exercises.
The President asked whether we should talk to the Thais about U.S. ground forces coming into Thailand now. He approved of Admiral Felt conferring with the SEATO military advisers in Bangkok.
Secretary McNamara said he believed that we should talk to the Thais now only about U.S. air units which would be coming there. Discussion of the landing of U.S. ground forces would be initiated if necessary.
[Page 978]Secretary Rusk recalled that he had raised the subject of additional U.S. forces for Thailand with the Thai Foreign Minister in Paris recently. U.S. forces moving into the area in the near future could be described as units participating in the scheduled SEATO maneuvers.
In response to the President’s question, Secretary Rusk said the French were not forcefully supporting Souvanna. The President thought we should make our views very clear to the French, recalling that Souvanna was their man. Secretary Rusk said he could recall to the French De Gaulle’s comment to him that if Souvanna got into trouble, we would have to help him. We wanted the French to encourage Souvanna to take a firm stand in defense of his Government, to get the King involved in the current situation, to strengthen the French military mission, and to use appropriately the French mission resident in Hanoi.
Secretary Rusk, commenting on the proposed visit of Governor Harriman in Europe, suggested that he should leave for London immediately and then go to Paris. His further trip to Moscow would depend on the kind of response the British got to their demarche to Gromyko.
Governor Harriman said he felt he could take a very firm line with French Foreign Minister Couve because Couve had earlier made commitments to us when he was persuading us to support Souvanna originally.
Secretary Rusk suggested, and the President approved, a Presidential message to Khrushchev to be carried by Harriman in the event he goes to Moscow. Ambassador Thompson recommended that Harriman go to Moscow alone rather than accompanied by a British representative. Secretary Rusk agreed that Governor Harriman could appropriately go alone in view of the fact that his mission consisted of discussing Laos with the two co-chairmen of the ICC, the British and the Russians.
Ambassador Thompson restated his view that we take military missions now but not make them public.
The President authorized the sailing of a task force from Subic Bay to the Gulf of Tonkin.4
Secretary Rusk asked that the task force not sail north of the demarcation line lest we appear to be threatening action which we are not yet prepared to take.
Secretary McNamara said the task force would take some time to get to within two hundred miles of the Vietnamese coast.
The President asked why we need to follow such a careful policy toward Cuba in view of the fact that the Russians appear to be prepared to see the Geneva Accords destroyed. He approved the proposed U–2 [Page 979] flights over the supply routes in North Vietnam. He agreed that we should be prepared to move U.S. air forces in Thailand, but suggested that we consult the Thais about our plans only after we know Khrushchev’s views concerning the current situation in Laos.
Director McCone said that our latest information was that the remaining twenty-three American prisoners would probably be leaving Cuba on Monday. He had reports that these prisoners were being moved from the Isle of Pines to Havana. Donovan appeared hopeful that the removal would be completed Monday.
The President commented that with the prisoners out of Cuba, we might be in a position to act against Cuba if Khrushchev made no move to halt the deterioration in Laos. He asked what action we could take against Cuba.
Director McCone said we should fly low-level reconnaissance missions which were necessary no matter what happens in Laos. He said we need to have pictures of Soviet convoys, some of which were described in considerable detail by Donovan upon his return from his last visit to Havana.
Ambassador Thompson pointed out that a U.S. bombing raid on Pathet Lao forces in Laos would be easier for Khrushchev to accept than U.S. action against Cuba.
Mr. Bundy asked whether, in light of the Laos situation, we should hold up the joint U.S./U.K. demarche to Khrushchev on disarmament. Secretary Rusk said he did not think we should. The Soviet leaders are undoubtedly discussing all subjects, including disarmament.
Mr. Bundy asked about the proposal to brief the North Atlantic Council on the U.S./U.K. demarche on disarmament. The present line is to say no more than that we are delivering to Khrushchev a message concerning disarmament. We do not think, however, that the demarche will remain secret. The President expressed reservations as to why this was necessary, but he did not specifically oppose the North Atlantic Council briefing. He did comment that he did not see how we could talk to the Russians about anything if the Geneva Accords are breaking down.
The President summarized the information which would be made available to the press, namely, Secretary Rusk’s calling in the Ambassadors of the ICC member states, Governor Harriman’s trip to London and Paris, and the scheduled National Security Council meeting Monday. As to the movement of the task force, no public announcement would be made, but if news of the movement became known in the Subic Bay area, we would acknowledge here that the task force was engaging [Page 980] in a routine fleet exercise. The fleet will sail tomorrow unless developments are such as to make it appropriate to sail earlier.
- Source: Kennedy Library, National Security Files, Meetings and Memoranda Series, NSC Meetings, No. 512, April 4, 1963. Top Secret. The meeting lasted until 11:55 a.m. (Ibid., President’s Appointment Book) For William Colby’s account of this meeting, see Document 460.↩
- Not further identified. Director of INR Hughes sent Assistant Secretary of State for Far Eastern Affairs Hilsman a memorandum suggesting ways to deter the Communists from destroying the neutralists. Hughes concluded that none of the Communist elements in Laos—the Pathet Lao, North Vietnamese, the Chinese, nor the Soviets—felt any pressure to end the attacks on the neutralist center. The problem was for the United States to create inducements. U.S. military deployments in the area would, according to Hughes, send a message to all elements. (Ibid., Countries Series, Laos: General, 4/20/63–4/21/63)↩
- As reported in telegrams 980, 981, and 988 to Vientiane, April 19, 20, and 20. (Department of State, Central Files, POL 27 Laos)↩
- April 22.↩
- The JCS directed CINCPAC to make these moves in JCS telegram 9565 to CINCPAC, April 20. (Department of State, Central Files, POL 27 Laos)↩
- Printed from a copy that bears this typed signature.↩
- Secret. Also sent to the White House for Bundy and Forrestal and to the Department of State for Hilsman. Sent with instructions to pass to Colonel McCrea of DOD/ISA and General Lansdale of OSD.↩
- Secret.↩