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The Chairman of the American Delegation to the International Civil Aviation Conference (Berle) to President Roosevelt

You have Churchill’s wire of November 28th declining to modify the British proposal and asking that we adjourn the Air Conference.

British proposal is reasonable for the United States across the Atlantic but would substantially exclude our or anyone’s aviation Eastward from the gateway cities such as Stockholm, Amsterdam, London, Paris and Rome. Prominent limitation is placed by British plan on number of planes which could go between these points and points East, the top limit being the plane capacity efficient to carry through traffic direct from the United States but not including intermediate traffic. There is not much through traffic from the United States to Prague or Cairo or Baghdad. Expert opinion here holds that no American line could pay expenses beyond the populous cities of western Europe.

Yesterday British argued their proposal in closed committee claiming their plan was needed to protect small states. Fifteen small states promptly got up and supported American position pleading that British proposal would prevent them from ever having self-supporting aviation. The line-up: France supported Britain luke-warm; all others supported United States including all Latin America, all Scandinavia, Netherlands, Spain, Canada, New Zealand. Australia, India, South Africa, stayed on the fence. The position of the smaller countries supporting us is that they want to carry traffic between intermediate points just as we do. In the jargon of the conference they want an unlimited Fifth Freedom.

British now want a quiet adjournment. La Guardia19 and I think this might be misunderstood by American public and prefer to present the American plan in simple English; get a record vote, and then leave the problem to an interim council. Otherwise we think the British would seek to pose as martyrs trying to protect small nations against us. They raised this issue and we think they should face it rather than we.

Stettinius and I believe you should pass on this question and we would much appreciate your judgment.

Adolf Berle
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President Roosevelt to the British Prime Minister (Churchill)20

Number 661. I have given careful thought to your 83620a and to the problems which you cite. You know that I have no desire for any arrangement by which our people would profit from the sacrifices which yours have made in this war. Your confidence in the justice and fair play of the American people is, I am sure, justified. I have equal confidence that your people have the same qualities in the same measure. I know that they want equal opportunity in the air and unquestionably they should have it. I can not believe that they would want aviation, in which you as well as we have a great future, stifled and suffocated because they were for a moment in a less favorable competitive position.

You say that the British Empire is being asked to put bases all over the world at the disposal of other nations. Of course it is. Would you like to see a world in which all ports were closed to all ships but their own or open to one foreign ship, perhaps two if they carried only passengers and cargo bound all the way from Liverpool to Shanghai? Where would England be if shipping were subjected to such limitations? Where will it be if aviation is? I am unable to believe that you do not want an agreement at this time.

I can not agree that the answer is to hold everyone back. It must be rather to go forward together. I know the handicaps under which your aviation industry has laboured during the war. We have found ways to help you before and I am confident that we can find ways to help you in overcoming this. We are prepared to make transport aircraft freely available to you on the same terms as our own people can get them. Our only stipulation is that aviation must be permitted to develop, subject only to reasonable safeguards, as far and as fast as human ingenuity and enterprise can take it.

We have no desire to monopolize air traffic anywhere. I do not see how increased frequencies on long routes would dominate traffic on short ones, when all lines would have the same right to increase their frequencies on the same basis. Nor do I see how in the long term such an arrangement would favor us over others, despite our head start.

You asked that I give further consideration to the fundamentals of your position and that I state the issues as I see them. I have done both and I am more convinced than ever that the answer is not to hold back but to go forward together.

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I feel that the Conference can still reach an agreement vastly helpful both in the air and in wider fields. Swinton and Berle on November 27 publicly stated our respective positions. The smaller States have spoken and, if I may say so, our position seemed to have by far the greater support. If it is not possible to reach complete agreement when our delegations have so closely approached it, the reasons, despite our best will, would be all too clear.

You speak of impartial arbitration within the general framework. The Canadians undoubtedly see both points of view, have laboured tirelessly to bring us together and on November 27 brought out a new formula which might provide a reasonable line of compromise if the small nations would indeed accept so limited a formula. I will give Berle latitude for one more try on the lines of that formula if you will give Swinton the same.

Given, on both sides, that spirit of justice and fair play of which you speak, I know that an agreement can be reached which will be equally beneficial to both our interests and to the world.

Roosevelt
  1. Fiorello H. La Guardia, Chairman, United States Section, Permanent Joint Board on Defense (Canada–United States).
  2. Copy of telegram obtained from the Franklin D. Roosevelt Library, Hyde Park, N.Y.
  3. Telegram dated November 28, p. 590.