862.20210/2070

The Ambassador in Argentina (Armour) to the Secretary of State

No. 7408

Sir: With reference to the Embassy’s telegram no. 2302 of November 18, 5 p.m., I have the honor to enclose herewith two memoranda90 regarding the results of conversations between officers of the Embassy, the Minister of the Interior and the chief of the Argentine secret police. [Page 251] The memoranda also include additional information regarding the progress made to date by the Argentines in the detention of Axis agents.

It should be mentioned that in spite of the explanation of the Minister of the Interior that he did not desire the Embassy to cooperate with the police because it was not desired that even the police know the Americans were involved in the matter, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs gave a statement to the public explaining that the American Embassy had delivered three memoranda regarding the activities of Axis agents in Argentina and that arrests were being carried out based on the information contained in the memoranda. This would indicate that there is either (1) a serious divergence of opinion among the government leaders as to the action which should be taken against these agents, and that as a consequence some sort of compromise was made, implying that a middle course is being pursued in these investigations whereby it is hoped to arouse neither the ire of Germany or the United States, or (2) it was not desired that the Embassy be in a position to know the intimate details of the investigations being carried out and thus see the inefficiency or lack of sincerity of the Argentine Government. It is possible that a little of both conclusions apply, but the fact that in spite of repeated requests we have not yet received any information of value from the Argentines would indicate that they [at] least wish to cover up some phases of the investigations.

Respectfully yours,

For the Ambassador:
Richard Ford

First Secretary of Embassy
[Enclosure]

Memorandum of Conversation, by the Ambassador in Argentina (Armour)

I called on the Minister of the Interior by appointment this afternoon at 3:30. I first handed Dr. Culaciati a list of questions which Mr. English had prepared for use by the police in questioning certain of the Nazi agents mentioned in the memorandum handed to the Government. I also gave him a list of the leading figures mentioned in the memorandum showing that out of 44, only 14 had actually been arrested or detained for questioning. Thirdly, I handed him a list of seven leading firms, only one of which—DIN—had been, to our knowledge, investigated thus far.

I then went on to discuss with Dr. Culaciati the great importance of having the Government proceed vigorously and rapidly in making arrests, searching premises, and in general bringing the case to a head [Page 252] as soon as possible. I told him that my Government was considering publishing the memorandum and that while I was prepared to recommend a delay sufficient for them to make a thorough investigation on the basis of facts presented, it was asking a good deal of my Government to refrain from publication unless they had concrete evidence presented of results to date.

In my presence he called up Galatto, Chief of the Secret Police, and Morano, and told them both that he wished to have as soon as possible a report on the results to date. This he promised me he would send to the Foreign Minister in time for him to give it to me when I called on the latter at 6 p.m. tomorrow.

The Minister told me that the evidence secured to date had been very voluminous and many of the documents in German would require some time for translation. I asked him whether their investigations had been carried into the Province of Buenos Aires, and he replied somewhat evasively to the effect that this was somewhat difficult but pointed to the La Plata raid on Hirner as evidence of some action in the Province.

I asked the Minister whether our memorandum had been shown to the police. He said that it had not, as he did not feel it advisable to let the police know at this time that our Embassy had come into the case. I said that I thought it must be difficult for the police to carry on an intelligent and coordinated investigation without having read the memorandum, and having an opportunity to know how the various elements were co-related.

I was impressed by a total lack of any system in the methods employed by Culaciati, and his whole approach to the question seemed to be superficial and extremely “hit or miss”.

N[orman] A[rmour]
  1. One of the memoranda not printed.