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Memorandum by Mr. Joseph E. Jacobs of the Division of Far Eastern Affairs of a Conversation Between the Chief of the Division (Hornbeck) and the Chinese Minister (C. C. Wu)

Dr. C. C. Wu and Mr. Weigh60 called this morning by appointment and resumed discussion of extraterritoriality.

Dr. Wu stated that he was prepared to make another proposal in regard to the question of excluded areas. He said that the Chinese Government could not agree to the exclusion of four areas but was prepared to agree to the exclusion for a period of three years of an area at Shanghai to be shown on a specially prepared map but which, for the purpose of description, might be designated as “Greater Shanghai” provided that we were prepared to enter into negotiations in regard to the extra-Settlement road question at Shanghai.

Mr. Hornbeck then informed Minister Wu that he understood that negotiations were already under way at Shanghai between the Chinese and the Settlement Municipal Authorities in regard to the extra-Settlement road question. Minister Wu replied that he was not aware of this.

Mr. Hornbeck then inquired if the Chinese Government expected the negotiations in regard to the extra-Settlement road question to be concluded before the new Treaty went into effect. After some discussion of the point it appeared that this was what the Chinese Government desired.

There ensued a discussion of principles in regard to the question of excluded areas at the conclusion of which Dr. Wu stated he hoped we would give him a reply, at our convenience, to the proposal which he had made.

It was arranged, however, for Mr. Weigh and Mr. Jacobs to meet together for the purpose of re-drafting some of the Articles of the Department’s draft of April 27, 1931. Mr. Hornbeck mentioned in this connection that there was one new matter which he would suggest that Mr. Jacobs discuss with Mr. Weigh, namely, the drafting of a provision in regard to the rights and privileges of consular officers after the relinquishment of extraterritorial rights.

Mr. Weigh and Mr. Jacobs arranged to meet tomorrow afternoon, May 28, to begin their re-drafting.

  1. Ken-Shen Weigh, Third Secretary of the Chinese Legation.