Paris Peace Conf. 180.03401/65
Notes of a Meeting Held at President Wilson’s House in the Place des Etats-Unis, Paris, on Friday, June 13, 1919, at 4 p.m.
- United States of America
- President Wilson.
- British Empire
- The Rt. Hon. D. Lloyd George, M. P.
- M. Clemenceau.
- H. E. Baron Sonnino.
- H. E. Baron Makino.
- United States of America
|Sir Maurice Hankey, K. C. B.||}||secretaries.|
|M. di Martino.|
|Prof. P. J. Mantoux.—Interpreter.|
1. Mr. Lloyd George said he had received a letter from Sir George Riddell, suggesting that the newspapers would not be able to handle on one day both the German proposals in respect to the the Peace Treaty and the Allied reply. Publicity of the Reply to the German Counter-Proposals
(After a short discussion, it was agreed:
- To publish the German proposals in the morning newspapers of Monday, June 16th.
- To publish the reply of the Allied and Associated Powers in the morning newspapers of Tuesday. June 17th.)
Sir Maurice Hankey reported that a summary was in course of preparation by general arrangement between the British and American Delegations, and which could be put at the disposal of any other Delegation.
2. With reference to C. F. 63, Minute 3,1 the Five Heads of States in approved and initialled the attached reply (Appendix the I) to the note of the Superior Blockade Council, dated June 11th, 1919.2 Sir Maurice Hankey was instructed Peace Treaty to communicate it to the Blockade Council. Blockade in the Event of a Refusal by the Germans To Sign the Peace Treaty
3. The following documents were initialled by the Four Heads of States:
- The draft Convention relating to the Military occupation of the Territories of the Rhine.3 Convention Regarding the Military Occupation of the Territories of the Rhine
- A memorandum defining: the relations between the Allied Military Authorities and the Inter-Allied Rhineland High Commission.4
Sir Maurice Hankey was instructed to forward them to the Secretary-General for communication to the Drafting Committee, who should use them as material for the drafting of the final Convention and Agreement.
4. With reference to C. F. 62, Minute 16,5
Mr. Lloyd George circulated a draft reply prepared by Mr. Philip Kerr, to the German note on the question of “Responsibilities” to take the place of the note considered on the previous day, Appendix 8 to C. F. 62. The note was approved subject to the following alterations:Penalties for Individuals. Reply to the German to the German Note
Page 2, line 3. Omit the words “in any way.”
Page 2, line 9. Omit the following sentence:—
“There can be no question of admitting the right of jurisdiction of the representatives of countries which have taken no part in the War.”
A copy of the Report as finally approved is attached in Appendix II.
(Sir Maurice Hankey was directed to forward the Report to the Secretary-General for communication to the Editing Committee.)
5. The Council had before them a Report from the Commission on International regime of Ports, Waterways and Railways. (Appendix III.)
President Wilson read the Report aloud.
The Report was approved subject to the following alterations:— Ports, Waterways and Railways: Reply to the German Note
Page 2. Delete the first paragraph.6 Also delete the word “Supreme” before “Council of the League of Nations” in the middle of the second paragraph.
6. The Council then considered the amendments to the Treaty of Peace proposed by the Commission, annexed to their Report.
Article 89. President Wilson felt some doubt as to whether this Article should be approved, unless he was convinced that Poland would receive exactly the same advantages under the Treaty as Germany was to receive under the substituted Article. It would appear to him that under this Article Germany would get rights the moment it became operative, while Poland would have to wait for the conclusion of the Convention.
Sir Hubert Llewellyn Smith7 and Colonel Henniker8 were invited to attend, and reassured President Wilson on this point. They explained that in other portions of the document exactly the same treatment was accorded to Poland by Germany.[Page 397]
The amended Article 89 was then accepted.
Article 98. The amendments were accepted.
Article 325. President Wilson read a letter from the United States Delegation urging that the whole Article should be deleted.
Mr. Lloyd George concurred in the view of the American Delegation. He considered the Article, either in its old shape or in its new shape as unfair and unworkable.
M. Sonnino pointed out that the object of the Article was to prevent something akin to dumping, but he admitted it would be difficult to enforce. He did not press strongly against its rejection.
(It was agreed to delete the Article.)
The amendments to Articles 341, 349 and 353 were approved.
Article 373. President Wilson pointed out that both the British and American Delegations wished to delete the whole Article.
(It was agreed to delete Article 373.)
Article 386 was accepted.
Subject to the above alterations, the annex to the Report was approved and initialled by the Five Heads of States.
(Sir Maurice Hankey was instructed to forward an initialled copy of the annex of the Report to the Secretary-General for the information of the Drafting Committee.)
7. The Council had under consideration the Report of the President of the Labour Committee commenting on the German reply to the Note.
The Proposals under heading 2, namely: the admission of Germany to the League of Nations. Labour: Reply to the German Note
Heading 3. The offer made by Germany to supply German labour for the restoration of the devastated regions.
Heading 4. Rights and privileges of Allied workpeople admitted to enemy territory and vice versa were not accepted.
Heading 5. Containing the proposed addition to Article 312 to the Treaty with Germany, and the corresponding Article in the Treaty with Austria was approved and initialled by the Five Heads of States.
(Sir Maurice Hankey was instructed to forward it to the Secretary-General for the information of the Drafting Committee. (Appendix IV.)
8. The Council had before them the Report of the Committee on the Eastern Frontiers of Germany9 on the answer to be given to the German reply.[Page 398]
The report was read and generally approved, subject to the Eastern following amendments:—
- It was considered that the first paragraph of (A) should be strengthened by a reference to the treatment of Poland [as?] having been one of the most notorious historical crimes. Eastern Frontiers of Germany: Reply to the German Proposals
- A strengthening of the last sentence of the first paragraph under the heading “East Prussia” on page 2, by developing the reference to the fact of the slightness of the railway traffic between East Prussia and Germany and the habitual use of the sea.
- The addition of a paragraph in regard to Upper Silesia.
(Sir Maurice Hankey was instructed to invite the Committee to alter the report accordingly.)
9. President Wilson drew attention to the second paragraph under the heading “(B) Possible Concessions” on page 3 of the above report:— Enemy Proprietors in Transferred Territory
“Further, two Delegations are of opinion that Financial Clause F in regard to German proprietors in Upper Silesia ought to apply equally to German proprietors in the territory transferred from the sovereignty of Germany to that of Poland.”
Recalling that it had already been decided to apply this to the rest of Poland, he said he thought this should be of application also to the corresponding clauses in the Austrian Treaty.
Baron Sonnino said that he was in general agreement, but he would not like to take a decision on the point without considering each case in detail.
10. The Council had before them a report by the Prisoners of War Committee,10 divided into the following parts:
1. Proposed alterations to Articles relating to Prisoners of War and Graves.
(It was generally agreed that, as these were stated to relate only to form, it was too late to incorporate them in the German Treaty.) Prisoners of war & Graves: Reply to the German Note
2. A draft reply to the German counter-proposals.
(The draft did not commend itself to the Council, and it was agreed that the Editing Committee should be instructed merely to make a reference to the note already sent to the German Delegation on the subject of Prisoners of War.10a)
3. An Annex to the report, containing the revised text of Articles 217, 221 and 225 of the Treaty of Peace with Germany.[Page 399]
(It was agreed that the changes proposed were of such minor importance as not to require action.)
11. (It was agreed that the reply to the German note on the subject of Memel should be referred to the Committee on the Eastern Frontiers of Germany.) Memel
12. (Mr. Balfour was introduced.)
Mr. Balfour read the attached telegrams (Appendix V, A to F) which he had prepared at the request of the Principal Allied and Associated Powers. He explained that they consisted of the following:— Military Situation in Hungary
- A general telegram to be addressed to the Hungarian, Czechoslovak and Roumanian Governments. (5.A.)
- Three additions attached to the general telegram and addressed respectively to each of the above governments. (V. B., V. C, & V. D.)
- A separate telegram containing the frontiers between Hungary and Czecho-Slovakia and Hungary and Roumania, respectively. (V. E.&V. F.)
(Mr. Balfour’s drafts were approved, and the Council thanked him for preparing them.)
(M. Clemenceau signed each of the telegrams and Sir Maurice Hankey was instructed to communicate them to the Secretary-General for immediate transmission, and for communication to the Roumanian and Czecho-Slovak Delegations in Paris.)
- Ante, p. 371.↩
- Appendix I to CF–63, p. 374.↩
- Appendix II to CF–64, p. 389.↩
- Appendix III to CF–64, p. 393.↩
- Ante, p. 355.↩
- Beginning “The Commission on the International Regime …”↩
- British representative on the Commission on International Regime of Ports, Waterways, and Railways.↩
- Col. A. M. Henniker, British representative at times replacing Sir Hubert Llewellyn Smith on the Commission on International Regime of Ports, Waterways, and Railways.↩
- The text of the report does not accompany the minutes of this meeting.↩
- The text of this report does not accompany the minutes of this meeting.↩
- Vol. v, p. 749.↩
- Appendix I to CF–63, p. 374.↩
- Brackets appear in the original.↩
- Brackets appear in the original:↩
- IC–178A, vol. v, pp. 370, 372.↩
- CF–6, ibid., p. 542.↩
- Post, p. 795.↩
- Appendix I to CF–9, vol. v, p. 571.↩
- Appendix III to CF–42, p. 121.↩
- Dated respectively May 14 and May 28. The text of the reply of May 14 as sent was identical with the draft reply in appendix II to CF–13, vol. v, p. 610, except for the substitution of the signature of M. Clemenceau for Mr. Barnes’ initials on the draft. For text of the reply of May 28, see appendix IV to CF–42, ante, p. 124.↩
Remarks of the German Delegation on the Peace Conditions page 54. “The German Government has a keen desire to contribute to the restoration of France and of Belgium by means of German labour as a means of partly meeting the indemnity due from her and will make in due course propositions relating to the means under which this task, which falls on all civilised nations, can be accomplished as rapidly as possible in agreement with the Allied and Associated Powers.”
note. The words underlined “of France and” have been omitted in the French version of the “Remarks” but they appear in the English version and in the German text. [Footnote in the original. The underlined words are printed in italics.]↩
- Appendix I to CF–52, p. 246.↩