No. 129.
Mr. Seward to Mr. Evarts.

No. 495.]

Sir: I have the honor to hand to you herewith a copy of a letter which I am addressing to the consul-general at Shanghai, in regard to the harbor rules for that port, which were adopted in the early part of last year, and which have not been put into force in consequence of a misunderstanding between the local authorities and the consular body. I think that there is a prospect that the present dead-lock will be broken soon and the rules enforced.

I have, &c., &c., &c.,

GEORGE F. SEWARD.
[Inclosure 1 in No. 495.]

Mr. Seward to Mr. Bailey.

No. 192.]

Sir: The fact that the harbor rules which were communicated to this legation by the Tsung-li Yamên in the early part of last year, and from which I was so sanguine as to hope that much good would result, have not come into effect, having been brought to my notice, I have inquired of the Yamên as to the reason, stating to them at the same time certain considerations which would be likely to encourage them to take the business in hand again. The representations which I made are shown in the memorandum inclosed, and the result in the report by Mr. Holcombe, also inclosed.

It is my intention to recall the attention of my colleagues to this subject at an early moment, if it shall not otherwise he brought forward, and I now communicate with you on the subject in order to indicate the situation of the business and the carefulness which should be exercised at Shanghai in order to avoid any further complications.

You are at liberty to hand a copy of this note to the chamber of commerce, but not for publication, and to read it to your colleagues and the customs authorities at any time when it may seem to you interesting or useful to do so.

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I am, &c., &c., &c.,

GEORGE F. SEWARD.

memorandum for mr. holcombe regarding the shanghai harbor rules.

In speaking with the ministers of the foreign office on this subject, please say that their object in preparing the rules, no doubt, was to conserve the harbor, and that, in my opinion, they were well adapted to this purpose. Say further, that I regard control over the district occupied at Shanghai by junks, and over the banks of that part of the river which is opposite the native city and suburbs, quite as necessary as control [Page 143] over the foreign anchorage and the banks of the river opposite to the foreign settlement. The junk people are more given td throwing overboard their ballast than foreigners are, and stone jetties, timber yards, &c., are found only, as a rule, on the banks in the native quarter.

It is very desirable, therefore, that these rules shall not be abandoned, and that the native anchorage, &c., shall not be exempted from their operation.

Please say further that I regard the promulgation of the rules as an act which the government is competent to perform, and that it is competent for the government to declare how they shall be carried out; that is to say, to instruct the harbor master and the local authorities and to provide for co-operation between them. In this part of the business the foreign authorities have no concern. It will be difficult, however, to give perfect effect to the rules without the active support of the foreign authorities. The government may rely upon such support if the rules are fairly and efficiently administered over foreigners and Chinese alike.

Please add that I feel more at liberty to speak upon the subject because of my long residence at Shanghai and consequent acquaintance with the dangers which are threatening the existence of the port.

GEORGE F. SEWARD.

shanghai harbor rules.

Minute of a conversation with His Excellency Shen, at the foreign office, September 16, 1879.

Mr. Holcombe repeated the memorandum furnished to him by Mr. Seward.

His excellency then remarked that he saw no reason why he should not speak with the utmost frankness in the business.

The rules, as Mr. Holcombe doubtless knew, did not originate in the foreign office, but had come from Mr. Hart, and the foreign office had approved them, asked the assent of the foreign representatives at Peking, and sent them to Shanghai to go into effect, because they believed that they were well calculated to conserve the interests of both Chinese and foreigners.

But at the very outset the consular body at Shanghai had not only put them to serious embarrassment, but also jeopardized the rules themselves by insisting at once upon greatly enlarging the range of their application beyond the area originally proposed by Mr. Hart. This had resulted in strong opposition to the rules on the part of the local Chinese authorities, and a protest by the high provincial officers against the action of the foreign office in approving the rules without having first consulted them.

His excellency added that at present the prospects for the successful application of the rules were much better, and that they could probably be enforced—the portion within the foreign concessions by the harbor master, and the portion of the area without those concessions by the local authorities acting in concert with the harbor master.

A suggestion of this sort had been recently received from the southern superintendent of trade.

CHESTER HOLCOMBE.