Hiss Collection
Hiss Notes1
ERS see Ed. →Wire S. Am states act Immediately
For Mins
2/8 Eden Chmn
Eden: 1st World Org. q. 2 q’s referred to us
- 1)
- Q. of membership of 2 or 3 reps of SU
- 2)
- Time & place of conference
AH
Note to Pres
re Art VII2
ERS & Ns to be invited
ERS To start at bottom of list 1st I should like take this opportunity invite our great allies to conf in US
Hope Pres didn’t shock you yester. by mentioning March I’m sure time can be arranged to fit in with convenience of Mr Mol & Mr Ed However we are very anxious to have the conf. at earliest poss. time Pers. hope could be held not later than latter part Apr.
As to matter of those to be invited you will recall at D. O. there was much talk as to the Assoc. Ns as well as the Un Ns We have come to the conclusion that taking everything into consid. it would prob. be most satis. to limit those to be invited to those who had signed Un Ns Decl & declared war on our common enemy.
As to Mr. Molotov’s reference to multiple membership for S.U. From standpoint geog. area & pop. it is my feeling this entire q. should be given very sympathetic consid. As to how it could be done immediately at the very first meeting I have not been able to determine in my own mind
In D. O. proposals we wrote in the provision each state have 1 vote. I have not yet been able to see clearly how D. O. proposals could be amended to provide for multiple participation. I wish again to refer to the Pres’ reaction yesterday to this matter when he said it was most interesting & deserved sympathetic study
Mol. Has expressed his ideas re last q. As to 1st q. like Ed. to state his views
Ed. As regards time & place. Glad to accept the invitation of the U S Govt I only want to enter 1 caveat. Mr Winant, Mr Gusev & I getting little jealous we never have anything in Lon. If Mr Mol & I go to Am for this I hope for an early meeting of For Secs in Lon
ERS Agreed
Mol Quite poss.
Ed. Invitation not ultimatum
ERS Promptly accept
[Page 743]Mol We also
Ed As to time have to get Ch. into line & possibly Fr. Lawyers want 10 days or so I rather think I am committed to debates in Par. before I go I would like myself 2nd half April
ERS around about Apr 15
Ed I would give it a wk more 20 something
Mol Agreed
ERS latter part April?
Mol Agreed
ERS Wanted calendar Suggested Wed Apr 25
Mol. Agrees to both
Ed We mildly prefer second (date) Easter 1st
Agreed April 25
Mol. We accept your invitation to Wash & the date of 25th
Re 3 reps Ed. Definitely sympathetic to their inclusion in Ass. We would be ready to say that at whatever is considered the approp. moment
Mol—As soon as possible
Would like deal with this q. relation to remarks of Mr S. Mr S has reminded us Pres spoke of decs of D. O. & 1 vote. Like ask 1 q. Can & Austr part of U K.
Ed—Of Brit Em
Mol & members of Ass.
The amends to Sov Const which have been accepted Feb last yr give reps rt of immed touch with for. states S U union of states. Const Enlarges rts of reps. In this sense we must develop rels with for. states, this already begun As to their pol, econ, mil importance no use proving what impor. have such reps as U,——Would be very desirable if could arrive at agt & have reach dec. today
Re Proposal made by ERS that Un Ns Decl signers & decl. of war com.
Q. which Pol should be invited
Ed Another reason settle prob.
Mol. Some Ns have no dip. rels with S U
Would like to check up exact no. of states which would take place
ERS read list
Ecuador has recently declared war but has not yet declared war [sic]
Ed: laughed
Mol If we can not arrive at agt re membership must say so & move on to another subject
Ed: all agreed except re 2 reps.
Cad: If you call a conf. to complete D. O. work & to agree finally on the Charter I don’t see how you can exclude any of members of that conf. from the Org.
[Page 744]ERS: The Un. Ns meet to complete a charter & all would be members They could elect new members before 1st meeting of Ass. Trying find way Sov request can be taken before 1st meeting
Ed Un Ns could meet as met last time & could agree amongst other bus. to extend foundation members to include the 2 Sov. Reps. We should be quite ready to agree to that
Mol. Suggests amend, to Ed proposal
We must formulate this q. as he proposed & add we 3 have agreed it would be advisable to give the 2 or 3 Sov. reps. a place in the Ass.
ERS asked Ed q.—Ed restated position
ERS I am favorably impressed with what Mr Ed. has said. I did not have an oppor. of discussing this with Pres this morn. ∴ at this time imp. make any firm commit. However delighted discuss with Pres promptly & would hope & expect U S be able give favorable answer before end of day
Mol. Agreed
Ed. “
Mol We leave now q of Pol.—in hope we reach agt.
Ed. Other items to consider
ERS There are a no. of details. If we could meet tomorrow
Status of Fr., Ch. participant at DO. & must be consulted, form of invitation, how & by whom & when invitations be issued
Ed. We might set up subcom. to prepare this & report to us
ERS A. H., Gromyko, Jebb
Ed. Other items for agenda
- 1.
- Yugoslav frontier—Will put in a note on that
- 2.
- Control Coms., Bul & Hung.
Mol. Dec. re Hung. Con. Com just arrived at. Other q’s
- 3.
- Iran
Agreed not try to list q’s still to come up at plenary session
Mol. when can we go on with q. of reparations?
ERS we will be prepared tomorrow to discuss Rep. further
Ed. Hope we will
Iran
Ed At Teheran we signed Decl. re Persia & each made treaties with Iran3
About oil—no dispute about SU’s need for oil. No part of our pol. to prevent S. U. from obtaining oil from N. Persia Indeed Sov. Un is a natural market for N. Per. oil. We do not wish to put any obstacle in way of R’s obtaining concession if & when Persians prepared to neg. it. We should all of us make it known that we will not press matters further re oil concessions until Allied troops have been withdrawn from Persia
[Page 745]Ready to consider making some statement indicating we would be prepared to start withdrawal Allied troops earlier than was agreed in treaty—which was conclusion of Eur war.
Mol. 2 diff. q’s oil & Allied troops in Persia
Q of withdrawal of troops was not taken up until today in such a way. Here is q of carrying out the agt already signed by Iran. If there is a nec. to change this agt, some time needed to study
About oil—Negs. began by Rs asking Ir Amb what would be Ir. att. toward Sov concession Said sure answer would be most favorable. Then Dep. Com Kav— went to Iran & talked to Saed. 1st position of Saed quite favorable—same re Shah
Seemed quite natural not only SU but Persia interested In accord with Decl on Iran would be solid assistance to Iran
Second stage—something has changed in Iran. Not now dealing with details but Per. govt said not prepared go on with discussions & Majlis took dec. not give concessions during war. Since then have heard many times from Per. officials dec was unfortunate & taken in hurry
Why can’t there be 3rd stage—return of Per Govt to its 1st opin. If Per. Govt has changed mind in 1 direction what [sic] cant change in other dir. What objection? May reopen negs. Brit already have concessions—no inconvenience to Rs & R concession would not be to Brit
Let things go own way. Nothing acute now
ERS Just a word. For the record US has not signed a war-time treaty with Iran. Treaty was Sov-Brit-Iranian treaty. Also certain Am. oil co’s were negotiating & we too were cut short. I wish to support endorse entirely Mr. Eden’s proposal re withdrawal of troops. Only reason Am. troops are in Iran is to serve S U from standpoint supply & movement of Lend-lease.
As to oil we are perfectly contented not to resume negs. till after hostilities end.
Ed: No opposition to Sov. concession
ERS Same is true of U. S.
Ed. We were negotiationg another concession even before R negs began & now all that has come to an end as result of Per. Govts present attitude. Thought statement he proposed might reassure Persians, who were undoubtedly frightened at one time, & make negs easier
As to troops, no need amend treaty which says be withdrawn not later than 6 mos after end hostilities No diff. in Brit withdrawing earlier. Thought might begin when supply line no longer going.
Mol Offered to have Kavtoradge come
Mol. Would like to have limit selves to exch of views
Ed. to think over what Mol. said & may make new suggestions
Mol All of should think