Dr. T.F. Tsiang, Chinese
Permanent Representative to the UN
Dr. Hu Ch'ing-yu, Advisor, Ministry of Foreign Affairs, GRC
Mr. James Shen, Director, Government Information Office, GRC
Vice President Johnson
Mr. Ball, Under Secretary
for Economic Affairs
Mr. McConaughy, Assistant
Mr. Cleveland, Assistant
Secretary, IO Ambassador Drumright
Mr. Rostow, White House
Mr. Rinden, Acting Director, CA
Mr. Mehlert, Interpreter
The President said that he wanted to say something about United States
policy with regard to China in the United Nations. United States policy
is to take every means to prevent the Chinese Communists from entering
the United Nations. This is the basis of our policy.
If Red China were to gain admission into the United Nations these effects
1. The GRC would no longer be a member.
This would adversely affect its international position, as well as its
bilateral relations with a number of countries who now recognize it.
2. It would have a detrimental effect on the attitude of overseas Chinese
in Southeast Asia and elsewhere.
3. Such a success for the Communists—when we face them in Southeast Asia
and Berlin—would give impetus to their prestige at a difficult and
important time for us. It would be a very damaging blow to United States
prestige and would hurt the United States position in Southeast Asia,
Pakistan, Iran and Turkey. So the United States and the GRC have the same position on this
question: to use every means to keep the Chinese Communists out of the
United Nations. On this we are in whole agreement.
So the matter which concerns us is how to get a majority plus one in
order to carry out this policy. We do not want to lose by three or four
votes. This is a question that does not involve just the GRC; it involves the United States
The President said the problem is to get votes in the United Nations;
there is no problem to get votes on this matter in the United States
Vice President Ch'en said that because the United States and the GRC are defending one position of common
interest it is easier to find means to realize the objective.
The President emphasized that this was a matter of vital importance to
the United States and the GRC and that,
given the background of this situation, it would be extremely inimical
to United States interests if the Chinese Communists should enter the
The President said we must be realistic in counting votes in the United
Nations. We must be careful not to count votes we don't have. We don't
want to be beaten in the United Nations by a few votes. This is a matter
that will be won or lost in a very close vote.
At 12:30 the conference adjourned for the President's luncheon in honor
of Vice President Ch'en.
Kennedy Library, National
Security Files, Countries Series, China. Secret. Drafted by Rinden.
The time of the meeting is from Kennedy's Appointment Book. (Ibid.) Vice President
Ch'en Ch'eng visited
Washington July 31-August 3. Briefing materials for the Ch'en visit
are ibid., National Security Files, Countries Series, China;
President's Office Files, China Security; and Department of State,
Conference Files: Lot 65 D 366, CF 1939. A memorandum of
conversation on U.S.-Chinese cooperation in Southeast Asia is in the
Kennedy Library, National
Security Files, Countries Series, China. A copy of
Chiang's July 28 letter to the President is
in Department of State, Central Files, 303/8-1561. See the
Supplement for both.
1 The Senate
adopted S. Con Res. 34 on July 25 by a vote of 76 to 0. The House of
Representatives concurred by a vote of 395-0 on August 31. The
resolution reaffirmed U.S. support for the Republic of China and
opposition to seating the Chinese Communist regime in the United
Nations, “so long as that regime persists in defying the principles
of the United Nations Charter”. For text, see 75 Stat. 965.